
Session Start: Wed Mar 15 17:53:59 2006
Session Ident: #plrlive
[17:53] * Now talking in #plrlive
[17:53] * Topic is 'Welcome too the PLR Radio'
[17:53] * Set by SleazyBear on Wed Mar 01 19:52:15
[17:53] -Logfile- Welcome to the PLRradio and AEBNradio Chat Room! 
[17:54] <PaulJohn> hi there
[17:54] * SleazyBear sets mode: +o Carrie
[17:54] * Retrieving #plrlive modes...
[17:54] <Dutch_Harry> Hey guys
[17:54] <Carrie> everyone should ICQ LB and tell him happy birthday, he's 30 today :) 
[17:54] <Quagmire> old mofo
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[17:55] <slaxxx> hi
[17:55] * adulion_eating has joined #plrlive
[17:55] <adulion_eating> hey people
[17:55] * Boop has joined #plrlive
[17:55] * adulion_eating is now known as adulion
[17:56] <Simon_> Hiya all :)   First time visitor here.  I have no audio (yet?) and I'm wondering if maybe it doesn't kick in until right at noon?
[17:56] <digits> LOL not the way I drink
[17:56] <Boop> hiya everyone
[17:56] <adulion> until sleazy announces it
[17:56] <SleazyBear> the feed is up, but i will be silent for a for about 5 minutes
[17:56] <adulion> hey boop
[17:56] <Boop> audio just kicked in simon try now
[17:56] <adulion> yeah feed is live
[17:56] <Dutch_Harry> i got feed to 
[17:57] <Quagmire> i hear the ocean
[17:57] <adulion> i hear ocean as well :P
[17:57] <digits> ICQ sent
[17:57] <Carrie> I hear tapping
[17:57] <adulion> shit i dont have trillian on
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[17:58] <CoolJay> Hi folks :)
[17:58] <Simon_> I show the feed as live now for 30 seconds but no sound
[17:58] <adulion> hey cooljay
[17:58] <SleazyBear> what you hear is the feedback between the two machines
[17:58] <adulion> i hear you typing sleazy
[17:58] <CoolJay> Hey adulion :)
[17:58] <SleazyBear> i will bring up the sound in a few minutes
[17:59] <mojoman> hi all newcomers
[17:59] <adulion> hows the health sleazy??
[17:59] <adulion> are you better now?
[17:59] <SleazyBear> i am ok, shoulder still hurts a bit
[17:59] <SleazyBear> but i am a lot better
[17:59] <adulion> :)
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[17:59] <rvince> 'evening people
[18:00] <adulion> hey rvince...
[18:00] <CoolJay> Hi rvince :)
[18:00] <slaxxx> bon soir
[18:00] <SleazyBear> 4 The views of this show are not the views of netpond nor aebn, nor the sponsors, you must be 18 or an adult in you country to listen to the show,
[18:01] <digits> ohhh we get disclaimers
[18:01] <seven> oh boy :)
[18:01] <CoolJay> 1st time in a year for a disclaimer lol
[18:01] <adulion> getting legit now
[18:01] <digits> next will be 2257 info
[18:01] <SleazyBear> http://radio.aebn.net/listen.pls
[18:01] <adulion> lol
[18:02] <CoolJay> I'm not hearing anything
[18:02] <Quagmire> SB is going to tear some new assholes today
[18:02] <adulion> custodian of records... my s bear
[18:02] <adulion> shit
[18:02] <adulion> mr s bear*
[18:02] <Simon_> all quiet here too
[18:02] <Boop> *gets comfy for this show*
[18:02] <digits> the van by the water for the address?
[18:02] <Carrie> I'm still hearing little tappign noises now and then
[18:02] <mojoman> let's rock :)
[18:02] <Boop> i hear music
[18:02] <digits> Hey carrie how are you
[18:02] <SleazyBear> oh by the way melly won the netpond lotto
[18:03] <slaxxx> cool
[18:03] <slaxxx> the police scanner?
[18:03] <mojoman> melly?
[18:03] <CoolJay> Cool Beans Melly
[18:03] <Carrie> here it comes
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[18:03] <Carrie> hiya digits, doing good :)
[18:03] <theshiftyeyedbastard> hey all.
[18:03] <adulion> hey shifty
[18:03] <slaxxx> tehshiftyey!
[18:03] <CoolJay> Hey shifty :)
[18:03] * Carrie grins and shakes head
[18:03] <theshiftyeyedbastard> fuck the world.
[18:03] <Boop> hey shifty
[18:03] <CoolJay> That's the spirit shifty lol :)
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[18:04] <slaxxx> sets the mood at least heh
[18:04] <SleazyBear> http://radio.aebn.net/listen.pls
[18:04] <Carrie> that's just what it was supposed to do, lol
[18:04] <slaxxx> hi atlas
[18:04] <Carrie> About the only thing they don't say is fuck the tgps!
[18:04] <slaxxx> hehe
[18:04] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[18:04] <atlas> hey slaxxx
[18:04] <Boop> lol
[18:04] <Quagmire> ok
[18:04] <theshiftyeyedbastard> You haven't heard the Sleazy, fuck the tgp remix!
[18:04] <rvince> interesting song :-)
[18:04] <Quagmire> so is this the meeting to arrange the death and destruction of TGPs?
[18:04] <mojoman> hehe
[18:05] <digits> am sure we will hear that enough today
[18:05] <Quagmire> what will we be replacing them with?
[18:05] <rvince> is that the anthem in Meat-land? :-D
[18:05] <CoolJay> lol rvince
[18:05] <mojoman> who is this?
[18:05] <adulion> whos on today? shemp?
[18:05] <CoolJay> They sound like a "friendly" group of people lol
[18:05] <mojoman> the hun?
[18:05] <mojoman> is it cyprus hill?
[18:05] <PaulJohn> loollolo
[18:06] <rvince> I don't understand what's this shit about "TGP being dead"... I'm making $3k+/month with tgp galleries (and only 2 paying PAs)
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[18:06] <slaxxx> hi krusty, erots
[18:06] <Krustywusty> sup
[18:06] <erots> hi :)
[18:06] <erots> anyone recording?
[18:06] <CoolJay> Do you do picture or movie gallerys rvince?
[18:07] * Quagmire gives Krusty a wedgy
[18:07] <PaulJohn> damn rvince thats nice
[18:07] <adulion> i can record today if you guys want :)
[18:07] <CoolJay> Paul & John should be recording :)
[18:07] <rvince> CoolJay, pics only... tried a few movie gals, but it sells the same while eating 10x more bandwidth.
[18:07] <PaulJohn> i'll
[18:07] <erots> good
[18:07] <slaxxx> yeah what's going on w that server, p&j?
[18:07] <digits> OHH this must be recorded for archives
[18:07] <SleazyBear> 4 The views of this show are not the views of netpond nor aebn, nor the sponsors, you must be 18 or an adult in you country to listen to the show,
[18:07] <mojoman> hi Krustywusty
[18:07] <Carrie> God I hope someone's recording this one
[18:07] <PaulJohn> it is not my server its GTP Thomas's server
[18:07] <Krustywusty> SB - sounds like this is going to be fucking AWESOME!
[18:07] <erots> lol
[18:07] <slaxxx> oh
[18:07] <PaulJohn> but a new server will be by SB
[18:07] <Carrie> Or if someone can tell me how to record it real quick, lol
[18:07] <erots> actually i'll record it too just in case
[18:08] <CoolJay> I've always done picture galleries as well, but was thinking about changing to movie galleries
[18:08] <atlas> all my monty comes from tgp. ive tried other things but nothing else worked
[18:08] <atlas> *money
[18:08] <PaulJohn> *recording
[18:08] <Carrie> atlas that isn't good, all eggs in one basket
[18:08] <digits> HEY SLEAZY
[18:08] <atlas> i know :(
[18:08] <Carrie> Oh thank you Paul
[18:09] <Carrie> lmao@ if you don't like it fucking sue me
[18:09] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Sleazy has gone loco.
[18:09] <adulion> rvince what do you do for content? i find i was running out of free content
[18:09] <digits> sleazy is the best
[18:09] <Boop> sleazy rocks my pop tarts
[18:09] <Krustywusty> hello everyone!! :)
[18:09] <Krustywusty> LB's coming don't worry ;)
[18:09] <rvince> adulion, either sponsor content or taking it from member area of the sites (with owner permissions of course)
[18:09] <Carrie> www.skan-media.net   <-- inexpensive content, buy by set or by invidual pic
[18:09] <Krustywusty> .. um.. logging in imean :P
[18:09] <Boop> hiya krusty
[18:09] <adulion> hey myrs krusticious
[18:10] * Krustywusty is now known as Krusty
[18:10] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Krusty. Thank god. I was so worried!
[18:10] <CoolJay> Heu Krusty :)
[18:11] <Krusty> shifty .. LB's so like totally like G rated, y'know
[18:11] <Carrie> he really is, lol
[18:11] <mojoman> does that exclude krusty :) or is she an honoury guy :)
[18:11] <theshiftyeyedbastard> word.
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[18:11] <_LB_> hey guys :)
[18:11] <PaulJohn> lb happy bday
[18:11] <PaulJohn> :)
[18:11] <adulion> jeez... sleazy is on a rant
[18:11] <theshiftyeyedbastard> hey there LB.
[18:11] <slaxxx> hiya lb
[18:11] <digits> we need to get LB a lap dance for his birthday or something
[18:12] <CoolJay> Hi LB
[18:12] <Carrie> 4HAPPY 
[18:12] <Krusty> hey hottie ;)
[18:12] <Carrie> 13BIRTHDAY
[18:12] <Krusty> 4 birthday boy
[18:12] <Carrie> 10LB!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:12] <digits> you save payroll
[18:12] <_LB_> lol ... I am happy enough.  Some friends threw me out of a plane thats enough :)
[18:12] <Boop> Happy Birthday LB!
[18:12] <Krusty> 12 in your favorite colour :)
[18:12] <Carrie> (okay so I'm not a whiz with the colors, lol)
[18:12] <Quagmire> amen
[18:12] <Quagmire> testify!
[18:12] <theshiftyeyedbastard> happy b-day, woo woo.
[18:13] <mojoman> i agree 100%
[18:13] <slaxxx> sing it, sista
[18:13] <_LB_> woah !
[18:13] <Carrie> dayum
[18:13] <rvince> whoa, that's a fucking grumpy bear :)
[18:13] <Krusty> 4 you sound fucking hot SB - this
[18:13] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[18:13] <Carrie> Tell us how you REALLY feel, Sleazy! Let it all out, quit holding back :)
[18:13] <Krusty> 4 Grizzlybear
[18:13] <digits> LOL Carrie
[18:14] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Sleazy didn't land on plymouth rock. Plymouth rock landed on sleazy!
[18:14] <Carrie> ouch
[18:14] <Carrie> don't forget "hairy"
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[18:14] <Carrie> left fucking "hairy" nut
[18:14] <Krusty> sleazy bear sounds like he threw the guy without the parachute out the plane ;) hAHHA
[18:14] <Haui> Hi Folks :)
[18:14] <digits> Dang even Haui shows up
[18:14] <CoolJay> Hey Haui :)
[18:14] <Carrie> Haui don't panic, he's given us a disclaimer at least 4 times already
[18:14] <digits> and make teh right one jelaous
[18:14] <Krusty> supple
[18:14] <Haui> :)
[18:15] <Krusty> testiculay as Emily from Little Britain would say
[18:15] <Boop> hiya haui
[18:15] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[18:15] <_LB_> not really sure what happened, but tgp owners do have a god complex that is getting worse. 
[18:15] <theshiftyeyedbastard> hey there haui.
[18:15] <Haui> Take it easy Sleazy we dont wana see ya stress ya heart to much
[18:15] <Krusty> you sound like SB LB ;)
[18:15] <Krusty> but i'll forgive you cos it's your b'day
[18:15] <Krusty> .... haui i agree :S
[18:16] <mojoman> that's why i have never and never will buy pa's
[18:16] <Carrie> LB it's the issue where you said the person had an agenda
[18:16] <slaxxx> i feel like i'm listening to a southern preacher
[18:16] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Krusty. Sober up. Please.
[18:16] <Krusty> i'm as Jober as a Sudge shifty!
[18:16] <Carrie> LOL
[18:16] <Krusty> you just ignore your pms don't you shifty - look up
[18:16] <Boop> lol
[18:16] <theshiftyeyedbastard> d'oh.
[18:16] <erots> it is same as saying someone "Hey dude, you work too much, I'm not allowing you to work that much, work less because other people who don't work as much as you won't get paid as much as you are" communism rules
[18:16] <_LB_> oh ok carrie. made a concious decision not to read past the 1st post. 
[18:17] <Carrie> 4 this thread brought to you by Tylenol
[18:17] <Carrie> err... this show
[18:17] <Krusty> *conscious
[18:17] <theshiftyeyedbastard> sorry, lol
[18:17] <Krusty> lol carrie
[18:17] <Haui> :)
[18:17] <Carrie> Quick recap: Sleazy was going to experiment with multiple tgp accounts. Folks called him a cheater. Shemp called him a cheater and cancelled his appearance.
[18:18] <Quagmire> Quicker Recap: Shemp took his football and went home
[18:18] <rvince> it seems now every 0.1k TGP owner thinks he can charge $50/mo for a partner account indeed
[18:18] <erots> true
[18:18] <PaulJohn> tgp alliance has raised its fee from 45$ to 60$/mo :(
[18:18] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Sleazy has the black rage.
[18:18] <Carrie> God yes, if everyone stopped submitting to TGPs... egads think of how the sales would go up
[18:19] <theshiftyeyedbastard> fight the powers that be.
[18:19] <adulion> sextracker...
[18:19] <erots> hm, maybe i should start charging too, i mean, i have almost 10 uniques day! woow
[18:19] <mojoman> hahaha
[18:19] <Carrie> The TGP owners would only last a couple of months at the most rotating their sponsor-hosted galleries
[18:19] <mojoman> 10 bots?
[18:19] <seven> damit! I have a site with 70 UNIQUES now how much should I charge for a PA ? :))))
[18:19] <_LB_> oh shemp can be prone to the occasional bout of grandstanding. but hes better than most of them. 
[18:20] <erots> seven: $10 000
[18:21] <seven> :)) lol
[18:21] <seven> who want's partner accounts? I have a few spots available :P
[18:21] <_LB_> you know that nowdays many tgps are making more from webmasters than surfers ;)
[18:21] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Google images is the largest tgp.
[18:21] <PaulJohn> with free partner accounts :)
[18:21] <digits> I agree with that LB
[18:22] <_LB_> lots of people farming webmasters for cash. 
[18:22] <Carrie> YES LB... they're turning their profit-making efforts towards making it from the webmasters because they are NO LONGER MAKING IT FROM THE SURFERS
[18:22] <digits> Well I aint paying anymore, I have one PA account, it is free for life and I will keep that one
[18:23] <digits> am turning to mass production of seo pages
[18:24] <Carrie> Sure Sleazy, it really sounds like you "don't care", lolol
[18:24] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Email me for info on my new pay per post picpost. Only .75 a day.
[18:24] <mojoman> hyeh
[18:25] <theshiftyeyedbastard> less than the price of a cup of coffee, or feeding a starving ethiopian villiage, per day!
[18:25] <mojoman> nice
[18:25] <_LB_> which village ?
[18:25] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Um. one of the eastern ones.
[18:25] <slaxxx> heheh
[18:26] <mojoman> cyberwirx
[18:26] <erots> haha
[18:26] <adulion> lmao
[18:26] <Krusty> is it a small village?
[18:27] <Krusty> does that incl. alcohol for the adults?
[18:27] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I'm also starting up an alternative webmaster resource site to battle netpond. But instead of me paying you per post, YOU pay ME per post! It's going to be sweet.
[18:27] <adulion> lol shifty
[18:27] <Carrie> http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=2y&size=medium&compare_sites=&y=r&url=www.thumbzilla.com#top
[18:27] <theshiftyeyedbastard> krusty. Only pruno for the adults (prison booze)
[18:27] <Krusty> lol
[18:27] <Quagmire> yes I can
[18:27] <Carrie> I *so* want one of those t-shirts
[18:27] <Quagmire> wear a burger king outfit at the same time
[18:27] <Quagmire> that will get attention
[18:27] <adulion> carrie i like the sound of your voice
[18:28] * erots grins
[18:28] <Carrie> why thank you, Adulion! :)
[18:28] <adulion> of course alaxea can be fixed
[18:28] <adulion> i done it myself
[18:28] <Carrie> lol make me feel like a dinosaur, I get into the older stuff ;)
[18:28] <adulion> it was mainstream tho... just as a test
[18:29] <Carrie> There's no faking going on here, look at the drop over the two-year graphic
[18:29] <_LB_> carrie you are going on ?
[18:29] <adulion> im working on a new ideas to boost pr
[18:29] <adulion> probably called cheating as wlel
[18:29] <Carrie> Once he gets the ranting out of his system LB, lol
[18:30] <_LB_> great ! :)
[18:30] <rvince> SleazyBear, following TGP rules isn't harder than following the "SE rules".
[18:30] <_LB_> I would like to start the 'fuck tgp' political party :)  I jumped ship almost 2 years ago and never looked back
[18:30] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I'm going to start advertising all my sites with viral marketing. I'm actually going to code my url into the genetic makeup of a certain strain of hep C.
[18:30] <atlas> yes! I agee sb
[18:30] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Carrie, then your ranting will start? lol
[18:30] <rvince> SleazyBear, also the more webmasters are fed up with "TGP rules", the more traffic for the rest of us :-)
[18:31] <_LB_> rvince ???  you serious ?
[18:31] <theshiftyeyedbastard> damn you melly, damn you all to hell.
[18:31] <mojoman> uhm, how do you play?
[18:31] <Carrie> I don't really have anything to rant about... sorta kinda
[18:31] <rvince> _LB_, yes... with some thinking TGPs are great tools to get good SE rankings on your pages + good indexing in Google Images.
[18:31] <mojoman> except my dumb q's carrie :)
[18:31] <mojoman> i've got a gold pass for aoe :)
[18:31] <adulion> lets talk about bunny rabits instead...
[18:32] <Carrie> TGPs are no longer good for PR... google is now PENALIZING for A->B<-A reciprocal links
[18:32] <Haui> Netpond contest has around 100 members that use the sig code any of those can submit the their threads at the 25th
[18:32] <Carrie> err  A->B->A recip links
[18:33] <_LB_> rvince I find the opposite. Tgp rules box a webmaster down. I made a living from tgp, but I would never go back. Happy to leave it all to you :)
[18:33] <Haui> will post a reminder later this week
[18:33] <theshiftyeyedbastard> that is why I do a->b->c->d->e->x->187->f->z trades only.
[18:33] <digits> I have decided that teh expense of TGP is not worth the return 
[18:33] <adulion> i got http://www.maxoria.com for recips if you guys didnt know
[18:34] <Haui> contest details are here:    http://www.netpond.com/showthread.php?t=81921&highlight=netpond+contest
[18:34] <PaulJohn> submit your blogs here>> http://dapornblog.com/directory/submit.php :)
[18:34] <rvince> _LB_, currently setting up blogs, but TGP galleries are a very good income to me :-)
[18:34] <seven> rabbit's taste good :D 
[18:34] <Quagmire> i just saw Skype compatible phones at the local computer store
[18:34] <digits> alot fo pages to host, I am going the way of freesites, SEO pages, Portals, blogs, and alot more text pages
[18:34] <rvince> Carrie, yes, but there are ways to workaround that
[18:34] <_LB_> yeah you have done well rvince. but you have worked very hard for it. congrats :)
[18:34] <Carrie> I PM'd it to you SB
[18:35] <adulion> my latest thing guys is - im moving into seo sites on deleteddomains.. it might work
[18:35] <digits> can we get the wrong number again
[18:35] <digits> freak some one out again
[18:36] <theshiftyeyedbastard> There is no more cash in adult. Nothing to see here folks. Nothing to see here.
[18:36] <digits> 1-800-FUCK-TGP
[18:36] <theshiftyeyedbastard> All the money is in "criminal defence lawyer boston mass" sites.
[18:36] <Krusty> Boston Legal kicks ass ;)
[18:36] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[18:36] <adulion> sleazy turn yourself up
[18:37] <Quagmire> that noise sounds like a fart in a bath tub
[18:37] <Krusty> .. how do you know that quagmire :P 
[18:37] <Krusty> lol
[18:37] <Quagmire> i've heard some
[18:37] <theshiftyeyedbastard> bathtub farts are the worst. Or so I hear.........from quagmire ;)
[18:37] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Carrie, put on some pants!
[18:37] <Krusty> lol
[18:37] <adulion> carrie is louder than sleazy
[18:38] <theshiftyeyedbastard> no, sleazy is quieter than carrie.
[18:38] <adulion> ok
[18:38] <adulion> 8-)
[18:38] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[18:38] <Krusty> HAHAHHAHA
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[18:38] <PaulJohn> lol
[18:38] <Krusty> dickheads:P
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[18:39] <theshiftyeyedbastard> see krusty, you pissed quagmire off.
[18:39] <_LB_> Carrie can you please explain to us the intricate details of cross linking in a multiple c-class bio-diverse matrix coupled with the effect a multi-homed server relay could have on a geo targeted filter hub ?
[18:39] <theshiftyeyedbastard> all my favorite sponsors have links to topsites right on their tour pages.
[18:39] <_LB_> in 6 seconds please ..
[18:39] <Krusty> lb.. don't make me vomit
[18:40] <Krusty> www.dictionary.com
[18:40] <Krusty> haha
[18:40] <Krusty> j/k
[18:40] <rvince> the trick is to find small sites you're the _only_ webmaster to promote via TGP galleries. I have 4-5 of them in my "portfolio".
[18:40] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Chicken or the egg.
[18:41] <Quagmire> there is no spoon
[18:41] <Krusty> the rooster ALWAYS cums first
[18:41] <Krusty> unless you're a vampire
[18:41] <theshiftyeyedbastard> how come other animals besides humans never pull out and blow their load on their partners faces?
[18:41] <Haui> only gold bullets :)
[18:41] <Krusty> ...werewolf sorry
[18:41] <theshiftyeyedbastard> or tits.
[18:41] <Krusty> lazy animals shifty
[18:41] <_LB_> lol I remember that.  man some of the ideas I had. I was gonna be rich overnight.
[18:42] <Haui> gold: http://www.netpond.com/showthread.php?t=82868
[18:42] <Krusty> chooks have tits?
[18:42] <_LB_> shifty werent you going for a few days ?
[18:42] <Krusty> thursday LB
[18:42] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, yeah, I am leaving in 22 hours :)
[18:42] <theshiftyeyedbastard> for 4 days.
[18:42] <atlas> Who does the new 2257 law effect tgps but doesnt effect avs's or Freesites?
[18:42] <atlas> it effects everyone
[18:42] <theshiftyeyedbastard> well, 3 nights.
[18:42] <_LB_> aoe eh haui.... hmmm.
[18:42] <Haui> yup
[18:43] <_LB_> is it once a year of twice ?
[18:43] <Haui> AOE Berlin, 24 - 26 April 2006 
[18:43] <Haui> I think twice now
[18:43] <Krusty> is anything happening in Oct - Dec in Europe?
[18:43] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I want to invent a system wiper software that is free. but doesn't actually wipe anything, but takes peoples cookies and rips other peoples ref codes out, and replaces them with my own, on the cookie level. 
[18:43] <rvince> _LB_, twice; last one was in Amsterdam in nov.
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[18:43] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Hey there melly.
[18:43] <rvince> theshiftyeyedbastard, some spyware do that already
[18:44] <Haui> Krustry theres probably another AOE then
[18:44] <slaxxx> i think most adware makes $ that way
[18:44] <Melly> phewww  I couldnt get in through a browser
[18:44] <theshiftyeyedbastard> rvince, yeah? that sucks, lol.
[18:44] <Haui> http://www.aoexpo.com/
[18:44] <_LB_> good point carrie.  I make sites now and spend a couple of days making a site that sits there making several sales a month ... year after year.  thats a passive income :)
[18:44] <mojoman> there's loads of amateur free sites that do that
[18:44] <_LB_> ok rvince. i might be able to attend the next one :)
[18:44] <Krusty> yeah me too!
[18:44] * erots grins
[18:44] <theshiftyeyedbastard> did sleazy say backdoor?
[18:45] <rvince> _LB_, neat; let me know 3 months in advance so I can plan things :-)
[18:45] <_LB_> we are just about to book for europe.  looks like being oct/nov
[18:46] <mojoman> ok, so tgps are out. what's next?
[18:46] <Haui> Krusty last year it was AOE Adult Online Europe Amsterdam, November 16 – 18 2005 
[18:46] <atlas> yeah, whats next?
[18:46] <mojoman> lb - where about in europe?
[18:46] <atlas> good question
[18:47] <_LB_> mojo, we will be staying with meat for a while, and also hope to hit ansterdam, germany, france. 
[18:47] <_LB_> whoops ... spelling :)
[18:48] <Haui> Only thing November starts getting cold I normaly prefer Sept for EU travel
[18:48] <theshiftyeyedbastard> US ownz you all.
[18:48] <Krusty> i'll be a'getting fat in Germany :) schwarzundwaldkuchen!!! and beer ;)
[18:48] <rvince> SleazyBear, there are tons of great hostings in europe :-)
[18:48] <_LB_> LOVE cold :)  From Wellington - NZ.  I love cold. 
[18:48] <Krusty> LB loves the cold Haui ;)
[18:48] <digits> glutenwine
[18:48] <Krusty> damn beat me to it hehe
[18:48] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Cold rocks. Heat sucks.
[18:48] <_LB_> I'm quick krusty
[18:48] <Krusty> gluten swine ;) hahah
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[18:48] <Haui> Thhats Bier und Bretzel and Schwarzwaeler Kuchen mit coffee and Schnaps :)
[18:48] <Krusty> yeah... you.... are.. lol
[18:48] <slaxxx> a german host you'd be screwed...they have some of the harshest anti-adult laws ever
[18:49] <slaxxx> the netherlands would be the place if you're saying europe
[18:49] <_LB_> I lined them up you knocked them down ;)  lol
[18:49] <Krusty> *und
[18:49] <Krusty> i'm hungry now - thx haui :P
[18:49] <Krusty> Kopfee
[18:49] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I am going to open up a hosting company on a barge out in international waters.
[18:49] <Haui> :)
[18:49] <Krusty> or something .. haven't done german since yr 10
[18:49] <rvince> 12yo can already watch porn on their phones actually....
[18:49] <Krusty> lol shifty
[18:49] <Haui> Visitthe October Fest in Munich mucho Bier there
[18:50] <rvince> (not that I consider that a good thing of course!)
[18:50] <Krusty> that's what i'm thinking Haui :).. Oct - beer drinking month - similar to the 12 mths of the year here in Australia ;0
[18:51] <Haui> and dont forget to visit this castle (relatively close to Munich) http://www.photoatlas.com/pics01/pictures_of_germany_17.html
[18:51] <_LB_> they piggybacked it through ?  ouch
[18:51] <Krusty> i've only seen snow once - for about 30 mins.. in Seoul in 2002 :(
[18:51] <Haui> was there a couple years ago nice place
[18:51] <digits> krusty I will mail you some
[18:51] <Krusty> mmm Bavarian cake ;)
[18:51] <Krusty> haha
[18:52] <Krusty> great!! :) yeah i love castles - Germany got me hooked on architecture
[18:52] <theshiftyeyedbastard> it don't snow in australia? wow.
[18:52] <mojoman> that's what i hate about pussycash
[18:52] <theshiftyeyedbastard> mojoman, the architecture?
[18:52] <Krusty> doesn't snow here lol.. maybe down in Tazzy and NSW sometimes .. but.. not much
[18:52] <_LB_> we do get snow ... but its down south and we don't talk to doze southerners 
[18:52] <Krusty> and i'm always in Brissy for that lol
[18:53] <Krusty> HAHAHAH shifty .. smartass
[18:53] <mojoman> no - how they say 2257 - you don't need to put it
[18:53] <theshiftyeyedbastard> southerners suck in every country I guess, lol
[18:53] <mojoman> .... but it's up to you...
[18:53] <Boop> i stay far away from teen for that reason
[18:53] <Haui> review sites are next :)
[18:53] <digits> I disagree haui
[18:53] <slaxxx> some needs to sell a script for it though
[18:53] <_LB_> review sites haui ?  why ?
[18:53] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Netpond can get in trouble, because krusty's pics don't have any 2257 info, even though she is wearing braces.
[18:53] <rvince> Haui, shttt!!! not so loud!!
[18:53] <slaxxx> there's a market for that...review sites have all of a sudden become trendy
[18:54] <mojoman> but then there's all those european 'modelling' siutes :/
[18:54] <_LB_> do I need a .2257 to remember what krusty looks like ?  
[18:54] <mojoman> haha
[18:54] <Krusty> lol
[18:54] <Melly> hey hey easyyyy onthe saggy tits!!!  lol
[18:54] <Krusty> i'm a "middle-aged teen" haha
[18:54] <mojoman> krusty / lb, are you in brisbane?
[18:55] <Krusty> yep
[18:55] <mojoman> were you in the maxiumucash chats of long ago
[18:55] <atlas> Stffler's Mom (Jennifer Coolidge) is the first MILF
[18:55] <_LB_> yeah I was.  which ones btw ?
[18:55] <mojoman> carrie posted one on bb i think
[18:55] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, yeah, without 2257........they could arrest you, just for thinking about krusty
[18:56] <Haui> Review sites are teasers, good for se with lots of text and convert well, since ya tell em what the site offers and all and if they like it they buy
[18:56] <mojoman> http://www.gummytummy.com/webmasters/mcchat.html
[18:56] <_LB_> *SLEAZYBEAR* can you turn carrie down a very little or you up a very little ?
[18:56] <Krusty> but only a very little
[18:56] <Haui> and no content on review sites pay or starve :)
[18:56] <_LB_> yeah review sites are fantastic !
[18:56] <_LB_> 2006 is almost year of the review site. 
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[18:56] <Melly> hey utra you made it!
[18:57] <ultrasKING> finally I am in :)
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[18:57] <Haui> Hi Ultra :)
[18:57] <theshiftyeyedbastard> hey there ultrasking
[18:57] <ultrasKING> like hacking fucking bank :)
[18:57] <Haui> Hi Karl :)
[18:57] <ultrasKING> Hi all
[18:57] <Krusty> heya karl
[18:57] <karl> Hi all :) bit late :(
[18:57] <Melly> lol  was it the port?
[18:57] <ultrasKING> no my firewall
[18:57] <Melly> ahhh
[18:58] <Haui> this is one of the best review sites: http://www.thebestporn.com/ makes tons of money
[18:58] <atlas> I hear you guys fine
[18:58] <mojoman> haha
[18:58] <Haui> not mine unfortunately do some folks from Ynot own that
[18:58] <Haui> I think
[18:59] <Melly> i can imagine they get hge SE traffic with a name like that
[18:59] <Melly> *huge
[18:59] <Haui> now dont copy make your better :)
[18:59] <slaxxx> everyone copies thebestporn
[19:00] <slaxxx> funny gfy thread about that
[19:00] <Haui> yes Melly they get good traffic and great convertion ratio from what I hear
[19:01] <Melly> kind of an ugly site too  lol
[19:01] <ultrasKING> review site is like big filter so they must have great ratio :)
[19:01] <Haui> Also think of doing Niche review sites , dont do all specialize on a niche
[19:01] <_LB_> no money in picposts ... move along nothing to see here
[19:01] <_LB_> no money in SEO ... move along nothing to see here
[19:01] <Krusty> no money in porn
[19:01] <Haui> hehe
[19:02] <theshiftyeyedbastard> No money in filipino porn, move along.
[19:02] <Melly> when i first came into adult I thught everyong was lyin an not tellng me some BIG secret
[19:02] <Krusty> lol shifty
[19:02] <theshiftyeyedbastard> melly. I still think that! ;)
[19:02] <Melly> lol
[19:02] <_LB_> no money in tgp ... move along noth.... hold on ?!
[19:02] <digits> LOL
[19:02] <Krusty> you're SOO right LB :P
[19:02] <_LB_> *ducks*
[19:02] <Melly> the BIG secret is.. work you fuckin ass off
[19:03] <ultrasKING> lol yeah Melly :)
[19:03] <_LB_> you know melly ... after having a guy in BB who was working his ass off more than I could have ever expected I now dont totally agree with that.
[19:03] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Don't let the work your ass off secret out! that makes more competition! sheesh ;)
[19:03] <_LB_> too many people working really hard not making the $ they deserve. 
[19:04] <adulion> ultrasKING- ya made it
[19:04] <Melly> That sucks
[19:04] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB. it sucks. I don't know what is going wrong with him. I think he works harder than I, and makes less money. Kinda sucks.
[19:04] <_LB_> i know exactly. I had a talk to him the other day
[19:04] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Cool.
[19:04] <ultrasKING> yup adulion ... somehow :)
[19:04] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Hope ya got it worked out :)
[19:05] <_LB_> I will probably dump a thread on BB because I see a lot of people doing it and it has never been covered. 
[19:05] <Quagmire> most people still are in 800x600
[19:05] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, that'd rock.
[19:05] <digits> how can you use a 15 inch monitor
[19:06] <Krusty> size doesn't matter digits
[19:06] <_LB_> btw those of you who haven't taken a look at bb ... you should.  :)
[19:06] <Krusty> so i've been told
[19:06] <atlas> I have a 17" monitor and I love 800x600, the higher res kills my eyes
[19:06] <Quagmire> i haven't had a 15 inch monitor in 10 years
[19:06] <Krusty> did you get an extension? lol
[19:06] <erots> i know people who are like getting new computer and monitor and are like, hey.. wow, why is everything so tiny and they switch to 800x600
[19:06] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I can't go back to anything less than 19inch. But then again I am blind.
[19:06] <mojoman> *That's why CSS is SOO IMPORTANT*
[19:07] <Melly> I gotta learn CSS
[19:07] <theshiftyeyedbastard> CSS is the devil. Or that is what my preacher told me.
[19:07] <Krusty> the preacher's son told me the same thing
[19:07] <ultrasKING> css is easy
[19:07] <seven> I saw MANY persons with 17-19" monitor and 800x600 
[19:07] <Krusty> i think they've been conversing
[19:07] <adulion> how about we start a netpond 
[19:07] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[19:07] <adulion> shit
[19:07] <mojoman> css is easy, but not easy to master
[19:07] <Quagmire> my father in law is using 800x600 on a 17" LCD
[19:07] <seven> it is just crazy, they had no idea how to turn the monitors setting to bigger
[19:07] <Krusty> one's enough for me adulioin
[19:07] <ultrasKING> http://www.w3schools.com/css/
[19:07] <Quagmire> its like sitting 2 feet away from a 40" TV
[19:07] <seven> and they don't had problem with their eyes!
[19:08] <_LB_> many people have eyesight problems so need to run in 800x600.  that wont change quickly. 
[19:08] <Melly> Ive been fiddleing with it, but just like php, i teach myself so its slow learning
[19:08] <theshiftyeyedbastard> seven. 99% of people are retarded when it comes to computers, hehe
[19:08] <seven> just tell me...
[19:08] <mojoman> lb - disagree
[19:08] <seven> I worked in a computer service for 5 years 
[19:08] <mojoman> with css, users can set their own font size, and realistically, websites should not change that size
[19:08] <atlas> so we should be making review sites now?
[19:08] <mojoman> but they do
[19:08] <seven> and solved problems like: "I don't have a desktop"
[19:08] <ultrasKING> I like hi rez and 19" or bigger :)
[19:08] <_LB_> i dont use css so I can't comment.
[19:08] <slaxxx> it's just trendy now atlas
[19:08] <seven> CSS is cool
[19:08] <slaxxx> the only css experience i have is modifying wordpress themes
[19:09] <atlas> ok
[19:09] <adulion> how about we build a netpond tgp that only accepts galleries from netpond webamsters- a kind of coop where we set the rules- we do it for the traffic and not for the money??? anyone like the idea?
[19:09] <_LB_> I keep getting told off for not using scripts. :)
[19:09] <seven> and PHP is more COOLER :)
[19:09] <theshiftyeyedbastard> seven. I have been building systems for people, and finally stopped, because the free tech support was killing me, lol.
[19:09] <mojoman> carrie sounsd like a robot
[19:09] <slaxxx> and whatever dreamweaver generates
[19:09] <Melly> i check the browser stats all the time
[19:09] <theshiftyeyedbastard> sound went to shit.
[19:09] <_LB_> Sound has gone crazy SB.
[19:09] <erots> Melly: it is good when you want to have classes, like "Menutitle" "Footer font" etc, to change stuff quickly, but whatever people tell you, it isn't actually that good for layout, i mean you can use it for that, but it is much harder to do than with tables
[19:09] <ControlT> Sounds turned crappy.
[19:09] <slaxxx> shifty broke the sound
[19:09] <_LB_> carrie is a distorted babble bot now
[19:09] <Krusty> babble bot? HAHAHA hope she doesn't 4 read the line above
[19:09] <SleazyBear> am i distorted
[19:09] <mojoman> erots - tables shouldn't be used for layout
[19:09] <Krusty> HAHAHA
[19:09] <digits> LOL there he goes
[19:09] <_LB_> oh SB is a distorted babble bot too
[19:09] <slaxxx> yeah you are sb
[19:09] <Krusty> yes
[19:09] <SleazyBear> ok. hang on.. 
[19:09] <_LB_> you are both distorted babble bots. 
[19:09] <SleazyBear> brb
[19:10] <erots> mojoman: why not
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[19:10] <Krusty> lol
[19:10] <Melly> EROTS why is everyone always saying how great CSS is?
[19:10] <digits> TGP will not go away
[19:10] <ultrasKING> Take Fishermans Friend
[19:10] <erots> Melly: i'm not
[19:10] <digits> may dwindle some
[19:10] <erots> Melly: but i'm wondering that too
[19:10] <mojoman> http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/
[19:10] <Melly> me either.. just for wp like slaxx said
[19:10] <mojoman> don't use tables :)
[19:10] <atlas> anyone else lose the show?
[19:10] <erots> mojoman: why?
[19:10] <Carrie> CSS is great because you can lay out your page in an SE-friendly manner and still have it surfer-friendly... NO TABLES
[19:11] <digits> first off the biggest problem with TGPs is when some one new ask how to start
[19:11] <digits> it is right to TGPs
[19:11] <erots> huh
[19:11] <Carrie> Sleazy is rebooting the sound
[19:11] <mojoman> carrie - hit the nail on teh head 100%
[19:11] <digits> want to join Beta brigade
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[19:11] <digits> you MUST do TGPs
[19:11] <mojoman> ie. you can have your left hand menu AFTER your content
[19:11] <digits> by THEIR rules
[19:11] <_LB_> and I thought we were gonna have a netpondshow without sound problems !  :(
[19:11] <adulion> no one like my idea???
[19:11] <atlas> that was going great
[19:11] <slaxxx> who said that, digits?  you don't have to do tgp to join BB
[19:11] <atlas> Carrie id Love it if you guys would talk more about what to do next
[19:11] <digits> ok you build galleries
[19:12] <atlas> im writing it all down
[19:12] <slaxxx> you don't have to build galleries either
[19:12] <slaxxx> are you in BB?
[19:12] <atlas> review sites
[19:12] <Carrie> Atlas hon, all of the answers are in Beta Brigade
[19:12] <mojoman> so ok, what happens after review sites become saturated carrie?
[19:12] <erots> Carrie: you know tables don't affect SE that much
[19:12] <Carrie> find a way to build alternative traffic
[19:12] <digits> Nope you got to get through bootcamp
[19:12] <slaxxx> oh meh
[19:12] <slaxxx> bootcamp is to make sure you're not a retard
[19:12] <theshiftyeyedbastard> you don't have to do ANY mission in BB, at least in alpha.
[19:12] <slaxxx> you don't have to do those things forever
[19:12] <Carrie> Erots take a look at the top listings in the SEs these days... no tables, just long pukes of information
[19:12] <theshiftyeyedbastard> do what missions suit your style :)
[19:12] <erots> Carrie: unless you are using some crazy nested stuff
[19:12] <_LB_> still a bit distorted. 
[19:12] <slaxxx> wow you build one gallery to prove you're capable of making one
[19:12] <mojoman> so that's why you didn't get through bootcamp slaxxx :)
[19:12] <slaxxx> haha
[19:13] <digits> I got no sound here
[19:13] <CoolJay> Re start the feed digits
[19:13] <erots> Carrie: that doesn't tell anything, one dude ran 3 month test about it and there wasn't that big difference at all
[19:13] <Carrie> usually to get a good layout you *have* to use nested tables
[19:13] <erots> Carrie: sure it helps a bit but not that much at all
[19:13] <digits> thanks cooljay
[19:13] <_LB_> ok sounds much better
[19:13] <CoolJay> np :)
[19:13] <Krusty> except carrie coughing
[19:13] <theshiftyeyedbastard> bootcamp is to make sure you aren't retarded, lol
[19:13] <mojoman> [18:11] <Carrie> usually to get a good layout you *have* to use nested tables <--- calling my designs crap :/
[19:13] <erots> yeah but you won't be nesting text, will you?
[19:13] <Krusty> 4 lol say hello to your kids carrie :)
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[19:14] <SleazyBear> were back
[19:14] <ultrasKING> sound is fine now
[19:14] <mojoman> sounds fine
[19:15] <_LB_> 4 sound is great.  DONT TOUCH ANY OF YOUR 32 COMPUTERS SB !!!!  IN FACT DON'T BREATHE TOO HARD !
[19:15] <theshiftyeyedbastard> sleazy, don't touch shit!
[19:15] <adulion> lol
[19:15] <ultrasKING> I am looking for PPC market place such as AdBrite, Adengage, Etology, Adword ... any else ?
[19:16] <mojoman> honeypots
[19:16] <mojoman> to catch ppl cheating
[19:17] <theshiftyeyedbastard> TGP 3
[19:17] <mojoman> i like
[19:17] <mojoman> i very like
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[19:17] <mojoman> and ll
[19:17] <theshiftyeyedbastard> how will I market my ebony midgets fisted without penetration?
[19:17] <mojoman> i could write one :)
[19:17] <Krusty> don't .. just sit and watch it shifty
[19:17] <ultrasKING> shifty make flyers :)
[19:18] <ultrasKING> hand it in your city :)
[19:18] <slaxxx> shifty: spamming
[19:18] <slaxxx> heh
[19:18] <adulion> sleazybear: i will do it
[19:18] <mojoman> to ponders with more than x posts
[19:18] <theshiftyeyedbastard> slaxxx, that will work, lol
[19:18] <adulion> fair enough
[19:18] <slaxxx> didn't we have this idea in alpha like 4 months ago?
[19:18] <slaxxx> if not more
[19:18] <theshiftyeyedbastard> ultrasking, put flyers on every windshield? lol
[19:18] <ultrasKING> hehe
[19:18] <digits> they have one
[19:18] <theshiftyeyedbastard> slaxxx, indeed :)
[19:19] <_LB_> Carrie ... as soon as I have the time .. myself and shifty will be setting up picpost and tgp networks only for BB ;)
[19:19] <ultrasKING> no 2257 required on windshields only on the net
[19:19] <digits> that doesnt work then
[19:19] <_LB_> I have the traffic to feed them too.
[19:19] <mojoman> http://www.gummytummy.com/webmasters/mcchat.html
[19:20] <_LB_> yeah slaxxx, just haven't gotten it off the ground yet.  only so many hours in the day
[19:20] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I was thinking about a BB only link list. Everyone involved could put a link to it on EVERY doorway page.
[19:20] <slaxxx> i just wanted to make it clear we thought of it first, that's all
[19:20] <slaxxx> no rush :)
[19:20] <_LB_> lol
[19:20] <theshiftyeyedbastard> slaxxx, it is because Alpha owns! hehe
[19:20] <mojoman> some good info in that chat
[19:20] <slaxxx> 0wns
[19:20] <Haui> Netpond PicPost: http://adult.netpond.com/picpost/   
[19:21] <digits> LOL knew they had one
[19:21] <theshiftyeyedbastard> ownz joo 4 free.
[19:22] <Haui> There was another one also plus bannerfree tgp but Jeremy manages those now so not sure they are still active or just fake sites
[19:22] <SleazyBear> banner free is fakie
[19:22] <atlas> lol
[19:22] <_LB_> Shifty ... krusty is crying in the kitchen because you apparently OWN3D her.  I don't believe it ;)
[19:23] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, finally! it only took me like 2 years, but I finally onwed her, lol.
[19:23] <_LB_> Carrie is this because of the thread I started in BB ? lol
[19:23] <theshiftyeyedbastard> sorry, OWN3D her, lol
[19:24] <Haui> good traffic for free sites: http://adult.netpond.com/pages/submit.html
[19:24] <theshiftyeyedbastard> A whole network of tgp sites that allow 8 text links out to sponsors!
[19:24] <theshiftyeyedbastard> and moneybars only count as 1 link ;)
[19:24] <seven> Haui I cannot found the submit url to netpond picpost 
[19:25] <erots> Haui: thanks :)
[19:25] <_LB_> haui ... are meat and aga gonna start up the statitician again ?
[19:25] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I miss the statistician.
[19:25] <Haui> LB not sure whats up there I thougt they gona use the LL data but guess they are bussy with other stuff now
[19:25] <digits> Aga did a sponser test which had me switching sponsers, and I owe them a lot I now make money doing less work 
[19:26] <Haui> Seven not sure thats fake only (the pic post)
[19:26] <seven> oh I see 
[19:26] <Haui> but submiot free sites here   http://adult.netpond.com/pages/submit.html
[19:26] <_LB_> yeah digits ... meat and aga really keep an eye out for us guys. 
[19:26] <adulion> they own a tv channel or production company or something???
[19:26] <seven> I submit freesites
[19:26] <seven> every day :)
[19:26] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Netpond even owns the jack in the box by my house!
[19:26] <digits> Well it was a huge thing for me
[19:27] <seven> I wanted to add it to my picpost list :(
[19:27] <Haui> Jeremy was gona work on that data but who knows when or if
[19:27] <digits> LOL
[19:28] <Haui> Yes hes cool 
[19:29] <_LB_> 4 Carrie you were away for well over a year, and what are the biggest differences you noticed when you got back ... especially predating me by a big margin ????
[19:30] <Haui> The biggest difference is LB got richer :)
[19:30] <_LB_> ha !
[19:30] <Haui> :)
[19:30] <_LB_> not by as much as I wanted though !  :)
[19:30] <mojoman> shit that's dedication
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[19:33] <digits> they aint getting my money, I will close up shop and go back to watching TV first
[19:33] <Krusty> lol haui
[19:33] <adulion> anybody seen the xbiz article about miss riley..?
[19:34] <Carrie> yeah, did you see the quote from jayman about how they don't care if they get another affiliate?
[19:35] <adulion> shes made him a shedload amount of money
[19:35] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I started a free partner account thread in BB, but it didn't go far :)
[19:36] <Krusty> lol
[19:36] <_LB_> 4 Carrie and SB ... can you talk about thinking outside the tgp/freesite/submitting box?  Can you talk about some of the old original BB missions .. eg like the FPA Ring mission that Aga inspired ?
[19:36] <Krusty> haha kids
[19:37] <Krusty> 2 LB i think i still actually have those BB missions in text files :)
[19:37] <_LB_> shifty ... we need to really get some resource listing threads in BB
[19:37] <_LB_> yeah ?!
[19:37] <adulion> im proud to be associated with jaymancash... my mate once came up to me and asked me about a girl online that he seen and i went yeh i know.. raven riley... apart from miss jameson and ron jeremy- very few of my mates know any other names in the industry
[19:37] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, yeah I agree completely. Like all those general missions where people give their links, need to do something with those as well.
[19:38] <theshiftyeyedbastard> When I get back from this trip I will get to work on some things with you.
[19:38] <adulion> shifty ya doing something for st paddys day??
[19:39] <_LB_> yeah shifty. I have fired someone so have more freetime ;) 
[19:39] <Krusty> snot me :P
[19:39] <Krusty> i think lol
[19:39] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Adulion, I am going to be at a comic/toy convention down in los angeles. Am going to miss the parade, but will be hitting up a pub after the show. I went to the parade in san francisco last sunday though.
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[19:39] <Krusty> unless it's a "surprise" lol
[19:39] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LO, lol. more freetime from firing someone? that don't sound good, hehe
[19:40] <Krusty> lol less directing someone lol
[19:40] <adulion> coool.. i would love to be in NY for the parade...
[19:40] <_LB_> ask me when you get back. its quite a story ;)
[19:40] <Boop> whats a money bar?
[19:40] <Krusty> ?
[19:40] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, will do, lol.
[19:40] <_LB_> 4 Carrie and SB .. can you talk about traffic filtering and moneybars etc like you used to 3-4 years back.
[19:40] <Haui> a money bar is a little text table add giving the surefer multiple options
[19:41] <theshiftyeyedbastard> boop, a one row table with multiple sponsors on it to give them options.
[19:41] <PaulJohn> wow my ratio for npc is 1:6067 for this month
[19:41] <Boop> okay thank you
[19:41] <adulion> im currently building one for my unsuccessful dating project
[19:41] <erots> PaulJohn: well then i'm not worried that i'm 0:2500 :-)
[19:41] <Haui> called money bar cause it makes money :)   
[19:42] <_LB_> lol
[19:42] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I can't sell dating for shit.
[19:42] <Boop> lol i like that
[19:42] <theshiftyeyedbastard> much like cams
[19:42] <atlas> If I submit a site to Google Adwords, will it get hit with the spiders faster?
[19:42] <theshiftyeyedbastard> and porn stars hehe
[19:42] <mojoman> http://www.gummytummy.com/webmasters/moneybar.php
[19:42] <mojoman> lb - sample money bar
[19:42] <_LB_> seriously dating is the easiest sale. but like webcams its 'skim selling'. 
[19:42] <erots> atlas: no
[19:42] <digits> I found a niche I do very well in, I have a hard time finding content
[19:42] <atlas> these ideas are Great!
[19:43] <_LB_> yeah mojo I know what a money bar is ... was just asking them to talk about it :)
[19:43] <atlas> God I hope this is being recorded, because I want to re-hear this to study it
[19:43] <_LB_> but good example.
[19:43] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I gets lots of clicks to my dating links, but the ratios are nothing to write home about.
[19:44] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[19:44] <Krusty> you write home about porn?
[19:44] <_LB_> shifty you can't really sell dating.  you can only skim sell it.  have it on all your pages, but dont push it exclusively. 
[19:44] <Krusty> lol
[19:44] <digits> LOL
[19:44] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Lb, gotcha. Same with cams?
[19:44] <_LB_> yes
[19:44] <theshiftyeyedbastard> cool.
[19:44] <atlas> im doing this
[19:45] <_LB_> will plop a thread on Alpha BB on it.  plz remind me when you get back
[19:45] <atlas> toplists scare me
[19:45] <atlas> im afraid to visit them, lol
[19:45] <theshiftyeyedbastard> There is no such thing as amateur anymore.
[19:45] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, will do.........about dating and cams?
[19:45] <digits> I have zero knowledge of toplist
[19:45] <erots> atlas: you see, adwords makes your advertisment appear in "javascript box" search engines don't follow links with javascript usually
[19:45] <_LB_> I made $200k on dating and webcams last year, have really worked it out well. 
[19:45] <theshiftyeyedbastard> damn, nice.
[19:45] <erots> atlas: also google guys said somewhere that adwords won't get you listed faster
[19:45] <_LB_> serious $ in both of them
[19:46] <_LB_> but they take a different approach
[19:46] <atlas> ok thanks
[19:46] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Cool. I'd love to get a chunk of that market.
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[19:47] <theshiftyeyedbastard> you made 200k on dating and cams. I made $47, I'm getting there, lol.
[19:48] <adulion> i've made about $1.30
[19:48] <digits> I have cam sites
[19:48] <_LB_> lol.  mate ... dating is the easiest sale, but you cant adopt a tgp/linklist midset. 
[19:49] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Gotcha :)
[19:49] <adulion> im doing it on 1klinks.com 
[19:49] <_LB_> anyhow I will do a thread on it and plop it in bb
[19:49] <adulion> thats by far one of my best sites yet :P
[19:49] <Haui> Hey has any of you in non aduld done any classified ad sites?
[19:49] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Cool that will work :)
[19:49] <SleazyBear> http://cams.com/go/g739712-brk
[19:49] <_LB_> nope haui. have you ?
[19:49] <_LB_> does it work ?
[19:49] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Haui. I had one about 8-10 years ago, hehe.
[19:49] <Haui> not yet but looking at doing some tests there
[19:49] <theshiftyeyedbastard> But I never advertised it enough.
[19:50] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Actually, didn't know how to advertise back then, so.
[19:50] <digits> if thats my wife am not here
[19:50] <SleazyBear> Traffic Quality : 38 uniques per FREE signup
[19:50] <Haui> somehow free classified ads = free content :) if the site is setup correctly :)
[19:50] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I'm trying to figure out a way to make money on a free job posting site. Right now, the only one that don't charge to post a listing is craigslist, and it isn't specific.
[19:51] <_LB_> Good point Carrie .... If a guy thinks he has a 1% chance with the girl, he will pay and pay and pay.  Money is no object when he really thinks he has a chance. 
[19:51] <SleazyBear> out of the 38 i run 1 in 58 that end up paying me
[19:51] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I hate falling in love with porn chicks. I feel so dirty.
[19:51] <mojoman> 0.
[19:51] <Krusty> www.sexonsecuritycam.com
[19:52] <theshiftyeyedbastard> sexonsecuritycam has an awesome tour.
[19:52] <Krusty> that's just cos you need a shower shifty
[19:52] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Krusty. I shower everyday, but only use soap once every 2 weeks.
[19:52] <theshiftyeyedbastard> It saves money that way.
[19:52] <theshiftyeyedbastard> redheaded midgets wearing boots?
[19:52] <Haui> shifty would try adsense with the classified sites
[19:52] <Krusty> lmao shifty
[19:52] <adulion> lmao
[19:52] <digits> there is an avs that is just like owning a paidsite
[19:52] <Boop> i thought of an amazing domain name for a toy site. are toy sites worth  it?
[19:53] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Haui, yeah? selling listings? or...
[19:53] <adulion> shaving you worse than a bicrazor... i'll be using that again ;)
[19:53] <_LB_> Lol .. that site is now our top seller. had no idea it would convert so well
[19:53] <theshiftyeyedbastard> any avs program recommendations?
[19:53] <digits> it has a trial sign up and recurring
[19:53] <Haui> does AVS still exist?
[19:53] <Haui> wow
[19:54] <digits> there is OVER 25 companies
[19:54] <_LB_> lol haui.  yeah but its called something else now. i forget what
[19:54] <erots> Boop: sex toy is one of most searched term that has word "sex" in it
[19:54] <digits> univesal has a great support
[19:54] <digits> you sign up and they will ICQ you
[19:54] <digits> offer help, support anything you need
[19:54] <Haui> shifty let adsense w=orry what ads they put there you just make pages and have folks do their listings, adsense will come up with something related
[19:54] <theshiftyeyedbastard> LB, you should make a site that has hidden cams inside of womens prisons. People dig women in prison movies, but I haven't seen any paysites ;)
[19:55] <_LB_> wow !  I would promote that. 
[19:55] <Boop> i think i might try it
[19:55] <digits> klixxx.com
[19:55] <theshiftyeyedbastard> haui, adsense, sorry.......I thought you said adwords, lol :)
[19:55] <digits> has a long list of them
[19:55] <Haui> np :)
[19:56] <adulion> i went round old pics from fubar and the amount of 404's i got for domains i got off old pics is unreal
[19:56] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Haui, I would think that type of site would be great........would just be a bit of maintenance on it to avoid spam :)
[19:56] <digits> http://www.adultverifier.com/
[19:56] <digits> VOD and POD
[19:57] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Much more targeted pages than using adsense on a message board I would think.
[19:57] <adulion> paybyclick or something
[19:57] <adulion> it used to be a netpond sposnor a few months ago??
[19:57] <Haui> shifty yes there are some scripts where ya have to preaprove the submissions so ya can filter out spam, was searching for some this morning at hotscripts
[19:57] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Hotscripts is the best.
[19:57] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I love that place.
[19:58] <atlas> Svothi?
[19:58] <Haui> yup
[19:58] <theshiftyeyedbastard> www.guenniepiginmylap.com
[19:58] <digits> http://www.ppvn.com/
[19:58] <Boop> and for the record i wanna grow up to be just like carrie
[19:58] <theshiftyeyedbastard> that is hella racist against italians, yo.
[19:58] <digits> SLEAZY ppvn.com
[19:58] <_LB_> 4 Carrie and SB .. could you talk about selling without using pic or video content ?  Eg using sales text etc to sell a surfer on an idea ?  (eg carrie remember that redhead gallery we worked on that made several sales the 1st day)
[19:58] <digits> thats the TOKEN site
[19:58] <mojoman> lb - good q
[19:59] <_LB_> 4 I mean the use of an idea to sell .. rather than relying on content
[19:59] <SleazyBear> http://www.tokensystems.com/newtour/new.html
[19:59] <theshiftyeyedbastard> 4 Carrie, any tips on helping webmasters to find the niche that will work for them, withoug extensive trial and error?
[19:59] <adulion> i do it with a fake link list
[19:59] <erots> good question
[19:59] <Boop> okay minus the kids part
[20:00] <Boop> i have fur babies
[20:00] <atlas> question: I like your review site idea. Is there a script I can buy?
[20:00] <Boop> thats enough for me
[20:00] <theshiftyeyedbastard> 4 Carrie, have you did any work with "porn for women" and if so, any experiences you would like to share? I find most people try to market it the same as gay, which is crazy.
[20:00] <theshiftyeyedbastard> boop, fur babies? kinky.
[20:00] <Boop> lol
[20:00] <erots> lol
[20:00] <atlas> Guys, is this being recorded?
[20:00] <erots> Boop: i made a script for my semi review site
[20:01] <Boop> 3 cats 2 dogs and a chinchilla
[20:01] <erots> oops, that was for atlas
[20:01] <adulion> i have... vivid.com i love it
[20:01] <_LB_> carrie do you still have that gallery ?  where it had something about a video banned in 4 states etc ?
[20:01] <Carrie>  www.ladylynx.com
[20:03] <_LB_> I really think I need to launch www.krusty.uncovered.com 
[20:03] <adulion> lol.. theres your moneybar...
[20:03] <adulion> "need batteries? buy you batteries here.."
[20:04] <theshiftyeyedbastard> www.communitycollegecoedkrusty.uncovered.com
[20:04] <theshiftyeyedbastard> lol
[20:04] <_LB_> .... while we are talking about getting money from webmasters ;)
[20:04] <Krusty> lol have Energiser batteries as the primary pic LB lol
[20:04] <adulion> i might make my own site...
[20:04] <_LB_> adulion.uncovered.com ?
[20:04] <Krusty> bed.uncovered.com
[20:04] <adulion> like i watch britney spears toxic video over and over
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[20:05] <theshiftyeyedbastard> adulion, just buy a webcam, pervs will pay to watch you jerk off to britney spears, lol
[20:05] <adulion> years of taekwondo has given me a six pack... i could promote myself
[20:05] <Boop> *insert alot of bad cuss word* connection
[20:05] <Krusty> $15 gave me a six pack adulion :) Guiness
[20:05] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Where are the paysites of women sleeping?
[20:05] <adulion> for an risih man i dont actually drink that muxh
[20:05] <_LB_> adulion ... what tkd did you do ?  where and who under ?
[20:05] <atlas> What do you think of Non -nude sites?
[20:06] <adulion> ITF
[20:06] <theshiftyeyedbastard> 20 gave me a 18 pack of guinness, over at costco ;)
[20:06] <atlas> Carries comments makes me think theres a big market for non nude sites
[20:06] <_LB_> yeah same here.  who with ?
[20:06] <adulion> im part of TAGB
[20:06] <_LB_> ahhhh tagb. yeah I know them. 
[20:06] <adulion> http://www.tagb.biz
[20:06] <Krusty> graaat britin
[20:06] <adulion> they had the last world champsionships??? last year??
[20:06] <adulion> dont know if you guys would compete in the same ones
[20:07] <_LB_> itf has split in 3.  
[20:07] <_LB_> who is your instructor/master instructor/head ?
[20:07] <adulion> we are kinda hidden away.. and the tagb is god
[20:07] <theshiftyeyedbastard> If there was a paysite dedicated to women with their hair colored wild colors, blue, green, purple, etc. I'd fucking join in an instant. Not just a general punk site.
[20:07] <Krusty> lol shifyt
[20:07] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I'm serious, lol
[20:07] <digits> Wow I just had an idea
[20:08] <adulion> head of the organisation is david oliver my instructor is keith farrell.. te organisation has bout 20k members
[20:08] <atlas> Their Dirty pillows lol
[20:08] <mojoman> QUESTION: IS THERE A FUTURE FOR FLASH CONTENT IN ADULT ?
[20:08] <adulion> i love playboy!!!
[20:08] <theshiftyeyedbastard> adulion, I loved your instructor in anchorman.
[20:08] <_LB_> yeah I know tagb well.  But I cant remember if you are the ones with master Wimbos (sp?). 
[20:08] <SleazyBear> mojo unless you make a site that is like cartoonie no
[20:08] <adulion> not sure lb.. very big organisation
[20:08] <mojoman> not even for games sb ?
[20:09] <SleazyBear> games ok, but like banners no
[20:09] <_LB_> ok. :)  
[20:09] <mojoman> oh god no ba
[20:09] <mojoman> no banners :)
[20:09] <adulion> i had to do a 6 our referees course on sunday... sheer boredom
[20:09] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Carrie, lay the smackdown! lol
[20:09] <adulion> hour*
[20:10] <atlas> thanks, I may make one since its wayyy easier on the laws
[20:10] <theshiftyeyedbastard> I don't think carrie will hesitate to tell us if she needs to leave, lol. :)
[20:11] <Haui> folks I gota go also lunch is burning for a while now :)  take care and see yas on the board:)
[20:11] <atlas> Carrie you Rock! I learned sooo much from you
[20:11] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Talk to you later haui, have a good one!
[20:11] <SleazyBear> laters haui
[20:11] <_LB_> dont stop the show yet.  we expect at least another 3 hours !
[20:11] <Haui> lators aligators ;)
[20:11] <Boop> happy eats haui
[20:11] <adulion> cya haui
[20:11] <_LB_> no life outside of this
[20:11] <erots> 5
[20:11] <_LB_> its all rumors
[20:12] <adulion> im currently trying to get my surfer forum of the ground
[20:12] <Haui> and BTW great show with great tips from Carrie and Slazy! Thanks Guys!!
[20:12] <Haui> Sleazy
[20:12] <SleazyBear> thnks for comming haui
[20:12] <Krusty> bye haui :):)
[20:12] <Haui> take care and be good :)
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[20:13] <_LB_> Adulion ... I know both main tkd bodies over there. just get mixed up who the head is of each.  might pop in and train with you guys when I head over later on this year 
[20:13] <Krusty> hmm. interesting idea LB - extra room for our doboks :)
[20:13] <Krusty> or that can be something YOu do when i head out in Meats car lol
[20:13] <adulion> one of our guys was over training with yous a while back
[20:13] <adulion> gordon fearn?
[20:14] <adulion> world champ in mimai
[20:14] <adulion> ?
[20:14] <adulion> know him
[20:14] <_LB_> Not sure.  we are from Australia btw ;)
[20:14] <mojoman> shit that's a good idea
[20:14] <_LB_> not sure.  but we do head over to the USTF yearly. 
[20:15] <adulion> i know but the world champiosnhips in 2003 was in miami
[20:15] <adulion> thanks carrie!!!!!!
[20:15] <mojoman> thanks carrie
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[20:16] <theshiftyeyedbastard> Thx carrie and sleazy, great show!
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[20:16] <Krusty> thx for that carrie :)
[20:16] <Carrie> you can find free php "hot or not" type scripts all around the web, try hotscripts.com
[20:17] <digits> I have hot or not scripts
[20:17] <Boop> thanks a bunch carrie!
[20:17] <Carrie> I downloaded at least 5 from there a while back that were free
[20:17] <digits> if anyone needs them
[20:17] <Carrie> Just use your own content that you have licenses for
[20:17] <adulion> hmmm...
[20:18] <_LB_> thanks carrie.  :)
[20:18] <_LB_> remember there is NO silver bullet ;) ;) ;) :)
[20:19] <digits> http://home.swipnet.se/dennishornysisters/hello.htm
[20:19] <digits> intresting site based on tokens
[20:19] <Krusty> unless you want to kill a werewolf!
[20:20] <_LB_> oh yeah those werewolves.  how silly of me :)
[20:20] <adulion> sleazy - yahoo groups
[20:20] <adulion> imdoing a lot with them
[20:20] <Krusty> lol LB :P
[20:20] <erots> adulion: where do you find adult yahoo groups
[20:20] <erots> adulion: it was empty when i checked it
[20:20] <erots> i use google
[20:20] <adulion> erm that link that was in the post
[20:21] <erots> google groups
[20:21] <adulion> hang on i got it bookmarked
[20:21] <mojoman> what about myspace?
[20:21] <adulion> mspayce isnt worth it from what i hear
[20:21] <mojoman> sure *does not like* but for reality sites
[20:21] <Boop> i don't trust myspace
[20:22] <mojoman> trur
[20:22] <erots> true, myspace community is more like 14-17 year olds
[20:22] <adulion> http://www.adultgrouplists.com/index_.shtml
[20:22] <adulion> thats where i find the groups
[20:23] <erots> adulion: thanks :)
[20:23] <adulion> i get about 150 hits from 1 email...
[20:23] <theshiftyeyedbastard> k guys, I have to take off so we can rent the cargo van. Talk to everyone later :)
[20:23] <adulion> 100 emails a day 15000 quality hits
[20:23] <slaxxx> bye tehshiftyey
[20:23] <Boop> have a good one shifty
[20:23] <mojoman> bye
[20:23] <Krusty> cargo?
[20:23] <erots> adulion: i get less from google but they are easier to find and over spammed
[20:23] <Krusty> good luck with that shifty
[20:24] <theshiftyeyedbastard> krusty, a van with only 2 seats to haul cargo :)
[20:24] <Krusty> hmm... 
[20:24] <adulion> good luck shift have fun over the weekend :)
[20:24] <adulion> shifty* oops
[20:24] <erots> SleazyBear: it was good rant
[20:24] <theshiftyeyedbastard> thx all, you guys too! byebye
[20:24] <Krusty> loved the rant shifty
[20:24] <theshiftyeyedbastard> thanks sleazy!
[20:24] <Krusty> sleazy
[20:24] <Krusty> oops hahhaa
[20:24] <digits> it was awesome as always
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[20:24] <mojoman> ty sb
[20:24] <_LB_> persiankitty wasn't it sb ?
[20:25] <erots> some tgp owners are like real communists
[20:25] <digits> yes it was with porncity
[20:25] <Krusty> yeah LB i think.
[20:25] <adulion> :O 
[20:25] <adulion> double :O:O
[20:25] <adulion> ok sleazy
[20:25] <Krusty> WHY?
[20:25] <adulion> have fun
[20:25] <Krusty> yours? ;)
[20:25] <Carrie> don't let me forget to talk about email collection boxes in BB, I forgot to talk about that
[20:25] <erots> oh, archive, cool
[20:25] <CoolJay> Great show SB :)
[20:26] <Carrie> double-opt-in of course :)
[20:26] <Boop> kick ass show!
[20:26] <ControlT> Thanks for the show Carrie, SleazyBear.
[20:26] <adulion> is email actually worth doing?
[20:26] <ControlT> Lots of great advice.
[20:26] <PaulJohn> yeah awesome show!
[20:26] <adulion> running your own list?
[20:26] <adulion> i spam the fuck out of yahoo gorups
[20:26] <erots> adulion: mailing list?
[20:26] <Carrie> yep
[20:26] <PaulJohn> win a hummer with pussycash http://PussyCash.com/wmaster.asp?WID=420924042&promocode=BCODEL0000023_00000&gotopage=default.asp :)
[20:26] <digits> I loved the show it has given me some really great ideas, about growing the new business
[20:27] <adulion> thanks sleazy!!!
[20:27] <digits> Thanks all
[20:27] <digits> LOL
[20:27] <mojoman> cheers :)
[20:27] <Krusty> HAHAHA
[20:27] <seven> thanks Sleazy and Carrie 
[20:27] <erots> adulion: like, if you send them confirmation email and all that, they are like forced clicks once you get them on your list
[20:27] <mojoman> is anyone going to aoe?
[20:27] <PaulJohn> i'm thinking about that
[20:27] <Carrie> Thanks Sleazy! Great show, especially the rant letting folks know the truth about TGPs
[20:27] <PaulJohn> but maybe not, i'm too lazy
[20:27] <digits> I am very happy I came here I got quite a few great ideas
[20:27] <erots> adulion: i have small list, but they always come when i send out email
[20:27] <adulion> i dont know about my own mailing list thing i might try and i might not... i dont like spam mysle fbut if its double opt in- i'll spam like hell
[20:28] <Boop> the show gives me new life every week
[20:28] <Carrie> Don't think of it as spam, think of it - and tell the surfer it is - free <niche> pics daily
[20:28] <CoolJay> Later folks
[20:28] <digits> me too boop
[20:28] <adulion> if there wasnt a show i wouldnt still be a webmaster to be honest
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[20:28] <SleazyBear> boop alot of what we talk about are for the long haul.. 
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[20:28] <digits> the long haul is the best way
[20:28] <erots> adulion: ah wait, are you talking about some other maillist? i have my own maillist for people inerasted in my site, kind a like bookmark, but bookmark that comes into your mailbox time to time
[20:28] <mojoman> tbh i need all the ideas i can get because i've made no money either from my mainstream or adult and i'm f'in pissed :/
[20:28] <SleazyBear> not a get rich quick thing, there is no get rich quick.
[20:28] <_LB_> awesome show. thanks guys. 
[20:29] <Carrie> And then daily, send them a few links to some POTDs on your page, or some sponsor-hosted galleries. Nothing big, just daily and repetitive like you promised.
[20:29] <SleazyBear> thanks for comming everyone.. 
[20:29] <_LB_> I am off. 
[20:29] <Boop> i like long haul, never went for the fast things, hell i only play the lottery once in a blue moon
[20:29] <mojoman> to be honest db, i'm pleased you said what you said because i thought it was just my egotistical thoughts
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[20:29] <erots> mojoman: lol, don't worry, me either, well actually i have made $10 but if i can make $10 i can make more i guess
[20:29] <digits> am off too it is almost bed time here
[20:29] <adulion> im currently using yahoo groups as a source of surfers for my other projects.. free traffic with little work but in the future i might just set up a domain with a hidden back end that only people on my mailing list can get access to-- maybe a daily pic like a pic post- 
[20:30] <slaxxx> it's 2:30 in the afternoon digits
[20:30] <Carrie> I'll see you guys on the board, any more stuff I think of I'll drop in Alpha platoon
[20:30] <slaxxx> bye carrie
[20:30] <mojoman> bye carrie
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[20:30] <digits> yeah well if you order online you want your purchase right
[20:30] <Carrie> *poofers*
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[20:30] <PaulJohn> going off see ya folks
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