Session Start: Wed Jun 20 17:46:53 2007 Session Ident: #plrlive [17:46] * Now talking in #plrlive [17:46] * Topic is 'Welcome to the Netpond Show! Audio on http://69.61.74.194:8000/listen.pls' [17:46] * Set by Logfile on Wed Jan 31 18:51:52 [17:46] -Logfile- Welcome to the PLRradio and AEBNradio Chat Room! [17:46] hi there [17:46] * Sleazybear has joined #plrlive [17:46] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Sleazybear [17:46] hi [17:47] woot [17:47] we were lonely [17:47] looks like he is here [17:47] hehe [17:47] howdy guys [17:47] Hi Sleazybear and Paul [17:47] no i am not here [17:47] oh ok [17:47] no sexy voice for us today *sighs* [17:47] i am just a resonable facsimily [17:47] i honestly thought it was tuesday [17:47] not unless you have a sexy sleepy voice you are not any facsimile [17:47] lost in time? [17:48] lol just happy we were not messed up and got the wrong day [17:48] I have time organizer so i cant miss any show :) [17:48] * Bizchick has joined #plrlive [17:48] Yayy Biz :) [17:48] Hey lady good to see your smiling nickname [17:48] hello biz chick [17:49] Howdy all! [17:49] :) [17:49] damn i need to drink something it's too hot even with fan turned on [17:50] oh it's nice here today - about 73 and just right for a change [17:50] ouch Biz it is hot and just finished raining one of our three rains this year :) [17:50] we've been lucky, this has been about the nicest summer i can remember in years so far [17:50] i haven't even used the a/c yet [17:53] * CoolJay has joined #plrlive [17:53] ola cooljay [17:53] * Guest42319 has joined #plrlive [17:53] * Guest42319 has quit IRC (QUIT: PJIRC forever!) [17:53] * Guest69766 has joined #plrlive [17:53] * Guest69766 is now known as redglow [17:54] Hey there folks :) [17:54] Hi bizchick :) [17:54] Mornin! [17:55] Hello CoolJay [17:56] * Guest79744 has joined #plrlive [17:56] * Guest79744 is now known as VideoRob [17:57] * rvince has joined #plrlive [17:57] 'afternoon people [17:57] howdy rvince! [17:58] Hiya Vince [17:59] * docputer has joined #plrlive [17:59] Hello everyone [18:00] hello rvince and docputer [18:00] Ola docputer and rvince! [18:00] Is it low for anyone else? [18:00] volume? [18:01] yeah [18:01] but i'm sure sleazy will fix that for us [18:01] its too low now... [18:02] * Redhotca has joined #plrlive [18:02] howdy folks [18:02] hi Redhotca [18:02] my voice will be low because of the difference between the music server and the mic [18:02] mic is always lower [18:05] good tunes sleazy :) [18:06] yep I was just thinking that ;) [18:07] Up the streaming bit rate :D [18:07] 192kbps [18:08] * Guest16580 has joined #plrlive [18:09] recording :) [18:11] * Guest64320 has joined #plrlive [18:11] * haui has joined #plrlive [18:12] hi haui [18:12] * Guest64320 is now known as Smooch [18:12] Hi haui [18:12] Hi Folks :) [18:13] hello Haui! [18:13] just stoping by to say hello :) gota go again but will be listening :) [18:14] hey haui [18:15] Hi Haui! [18:16] SB is trying to make me hungry... [18:16] hi haui [18:17] Sleazy that is Brazilian not Bavarian! ;) [18:19] LOL [18:25] * tigermom has joined #plrlive [18:25] hiya all [18:26] hi tigermom [18:27] hello TG [18:28] Hi annette :) [18:28] hi tm :) [18:30] hi TM [18:33] hey talk [18:33] am i still here [18:33] LOL [18:33] We are talking [18:33] I thought you were just a facimile [18:33] yep a reasonable one [18:33] I'm too tired to talk... [18:33] long night tigermom? [18:34] how goes the mainstream, tigermom? [18:34] youtube only allows ripped ones [18:34] LOL [18:34] long day, actually [18:34] it's evening time here :) [18:34] ouch :( [18:34] gym in the morning, then the swimming pool in the afernoon lol [18:34] I'm beat :p [18:35] Oh an netpond contest? [18:35] Oh yes I remember now! [18:36] its up for me [18:36] No it's not :p [18:36] what server you on? [18:36] Works fine :) [18:36] deblume [18:36] ah [18:37] http://www.cpcyberwurx.com/ all the way! :) [18:37] ya, they are rock solid [18:37] ugh i read the board up til these drama threads started [18:37] I use cyberwurx as well :) [18:37] I Love cyberwurx! [18:37] same here [18:37] I use them too [18:37] drama llama ding dang [18:37] as one of 7-8 servers [18:37] takes too much time to read the drama and you get NO info [18:37] Yeah I've been taking a pond break, I'm sick to death of the MEGA DRAMA! I want to talk business, but he said she said. [18:38] I have five tigermom but cyberwurx and hostgator are my favorite [18:38] well, what happened to people being kicked out as the weakest links? [18:38] quite a few weak links around IMO [18:38] I dunno tigermom they sure are getting weak :( [18:38] and I HATE a witch hunt atmosphere, EVEN if I agree with the topic. It poisons a board over time. [18:38] ugh [18:38] drama sucks, but imho netpond is still the closest to drama-free amoung all the other boards I read. [18:39] right rvince but the atmosphere is very unnewbie friendly lately [18:39] I just wanna do business or take a fun break or ask advice at the board not listen to them call each other motherless sons of camels [18:40] Does haui get a kick out of banning? I would lol [18:40] ROFL "motherless sons of camels" :) [18:40] Chimera, drama is part of any business/industry... :-) I gotta agree ambiance is currently not as good as it was a couple years ago. [18:40] lol CoolJay I am glad you can't ban [18:40] Actually I ban only as last resort if folks dont listen [18:41] But do you smile in an evil way when you hit the nuke button :D [18:41] LOL Sleazybear it is not about one post it is about an atmosphere...you get the ass kissers the angry guys taking over so us newbies stay quiet [18:41] you can have good drama and bad drama, IMO [18:41] yes tigermom I like good drama that is fun [18:41] if there's some topic that is imporatnt to everyone, you can have a good thread about it and it can be dramatic as well [18:41] outing a bad egg can be good drama [18:41] I like people that ask and ones that answer...and yes I like people that disagree [18:41] the problem begins with people flaming/attacking for no reason [18:42] I will say it's true that boards go through cycles. I just hate it when it's a bottom period, which this one is in. Eventually it will pull back up, they almost always do. [18:42] needs to be addressed, IMHO [18:43] amen you guys do an awesome job but let me give you an example of what I mean by newbie unfriendly too....there is a sponsor that does some really really really nasty stuff. A big guy...possibly a board sponsor but no one can say anything about it. It can't be outed by a newbie because you will get your ass reamed by every one and their brother [18:43] no I dont smile when I hit the nuke button , but heck if they dont listen they dont leave me any other option [18:44] so as a newbie you know something other newbies should know but you can't say shit...except in pm...and even then be very careful...you know who will flame you before you make that post...hence the newbie underground where the REAL info is shared [18:44] The pond is a reflection of its members and time we live in, each and everybody here is part of it and responsible for what she or he posts and that's what makes up this community. [18:44] So think positive and if you wana see better posts and threads well just start em, avoid personal shit and ask buiz related questions and buiz related threads. Easy as that, there will always be differences of opinions and that is good otherwise it would be boring. [18:44] And if they DO have screenies? I still wouldn't post it, because of the blowback [18:45] About a board police, nope I dont like that idea and I will not analyze to death each post if its according to the rules or not, the mods need only to act when things get way out of hand and the less their presence is felt the better! [18:45] I'd keep it to myself. [18:45] LOL I do have...but dear one would you make that post? [18:45] Fair enough haui, was jusk asking :) [18:45] really would you? I don't slap sponsors ever. I state facts period [18:45] Remember the pond is what you make of it, there is no dial that we turn and say today we want yellow pissing matches and tomorrow we want rosy peace etc its what YOU guys post. [18:45] So again: be smart and take advantage of Netpond, post buiz related stuff ask questions and you will get answers, you are the ones that profit from it! [18:46] exactly so where can the newbie get the real info? icq skype share the screenies? [18:46] I refused to do business with several (3-4) people because I badmouth very easyly other ppl they do business with without much proofs and I don't want to run the risk of seeing them destroying my reputation. [18:46] indeed rvince [18:47] rvince the real thing is we all know some places are good and some are not...as a newbie I have only 5 or 6k clicks a day...do you really think i want to waste them and do you think that others do? [18:47] It seems like everyone that hasnt dropped out is on edge because of the summer [18:47] I agree that outing sponsors is bad stuff but where do newbies get the real info? [18:47] Yup, until I'm a bigger fish, I need to know who's straight and who isn't. And I am building up my list. [18:47] So you share in the underground with people who can go check the facts themselves ;( [18:48] otherwise it is all hype and no truths [18:48] And I don't post any of it on the board because there is no point. [18:48] exactly [18:48] what I am saying Sleazy is there is a real underground [18:49] How do you know not to use that sponsor Sleazy the board makes them look rosy [18:49] *smiles* now call that newbie friendly or true information? [18:49] *sighs* I was told to quit pushing so I will :) [18:50] it's the underground of the porn templars [18:50] Chimera, if you have doubt with a sponsor talk w/ a more experienced webmaster and ask him/her advises. [18:50] free masons of porn lol [18:50] a few of the netpond sponsors i do well with sales wise and that is one reason i pushed them cause they were trusted [18:50] sorry, been reading umberto eco's focault's pendulum the past few days [18:50] LOL, look out for the illuminati next! [18:51] Ooo, can we have secret handshakes? [18:51] aww Sleazy not mad at you but posing a question and a real issue [18:51] it is very real with us...I do have some very good webmaster hands and honestly one of them just outed some info i gave him but....given the board atmosphere no names were named [18:51] I think at the end of the day, that's why there is a newbie network. Because this stuff can't be posted publicly. But newbies will make a bunch of mistakes and lose a lot of money before they ever find this out. [18:51] Can we get the small motorcars for parades? [18:51] exactly [18:52] how can you help us if you have ulterior motives too? for real help us [18:52] LOL [18:52] And FEZ's [18:52] Exactly yet the screens sit on my hard drive...I am not after drama just real info this traffic wasn't easy to learn to get [18:52] and i wasted so much of it [18:53] Tell me about Chi [18:53] *grins* the underground doesn't :) [18:54] yep Sleazy ...darn it we newbies who work so hard to learn... we can't waste all that traffic [18:54] It is the difference between a FREE board and a PAID one. That's the real heart of the issue. A PAID board can't upset their advertisers. [18:54] A FREE one can say whatever needs said. [18:54] yah :( but then again you have the issue of people pissing :( [18:54] That does NOT mean I have anything against paid ones :) I make money too. [18:54] free or paid you will see that too much [18:55] LOL so you are saying there is a Sleazy Underground too eh? [18:55] No I didn't mean drama SB [18:55] anyone finding free traffic sources harder to convert these days ? [18:55] All boards have drama! [18:55] Fuck, SleazyUnderground.com is an AWESOME domain [18:56] LMAO [18:56] I wonder if it is free [18:56] Go for the sleazy underground! [18:56] I have found you to be more than helpful SB, and always super honest - and I know I said it before but here it is again: THANK YOU [18:56] lol that would be scary [18:56] you can learn easy or you can learn hard sleazy [18:56] I dont think anyone is saying people arent helpful [18:57] so if everyone jumps off a bridge I should do that on every bridge I see [18:57] lol I agree netpond is good but somehow we miss a lot of what could be...I do not see a solution..I do see a problem which makes me a whiner :) [18:58] I have seen it before around 97 or so [18:59] LOL well that is a good reason not to like someone [19:00] I had to quit bb when you asked me to make 10 banners :( photoshop and I hate each other ;) [19:01] LOL [19:02] I seriously can't make a banner ...my text links and stories outsell anything :) [19:02] I actually did not say I hated it. I said mine look like a 2 year old made them :) [19:05] Sleazybear, indeed it can't be stressed enough: ugly sites/banners/galleries sell much better than nice ones. [19:05] LOL [19:06] true actually I use a little button and some nasty text :) [19:06] buttons don't actually need much and I am good at nasty text :) [19:06] The text under the banner is so crucial too - any banner without text will be outsold by one with text. [19:07] yeah for sure in fact I prefer text but the banner makes them look. BTW did you know there is a new study saying that surfers are showing a tendency to ignore the left hand side of blogs...so that bar is not that useful [19:07] Anyone need ugly design?hehe [19:07] I am using the right side for sales and it is indeed working [19:08] I actually hardly even use banners anymore. Only text links now. [19:08] I'm glad all my blogs have a right side bar then [19:08] 3 column or 2 column more effective in layout? [19:08] quick poll [19:08] I must apologize to you publicly sleazy you needed a topic and I kinda yanked your chain a bit :) [19:08] 2 column [19:08] studies [19:08] I'd vote 2 column also [19:08] dont bother with the three column [19:08] I like the extra width :) [19:08] huh, I was 3 column [19:09] well I did some reading on it [19:09] and then tested it [19:09] 250 blogs as of today [19:09] Woot! Go Chi! [19:09] left hand is not so good but ok for listing link trades [19:09] smoked me :( [19:09] use it for your must have stuff [19:09] Right hand also. Testing different layouts now. [19:10] I am happy you took it well Sleazy I do not dis sponsors I dont go for a quick buck and I do love netpond [19:10] TM, you blog quite a bit, what are your thoughts? [19:10] you're asking me? I almost fell asleep on my keyboard lol [19:10] * Bizchick nudges tigermom [19:10] too tired :p [19:11] oh please tigermom most of what I have learned is from experimentation [19:11] I only use 2 columns but I never tested it really [19:11] Uh Oh, need to start some drama then! BizChick is a doodoohead [19:11] AGH you shut up Lucky! [19:11] uhhh you two get a rooom :) [19:11] * Bizchick slaps Lucky with a trout [19:11] wait you have one [19:11] he he he [19:11] Chimera, if you learn from experimentation you're very likely to succeed in this business. people who learn by copying are bound to fail imho. [19:12] you need something more than that to wake me up with lol, I get this from my kids all day long :p [19:12] I do share with others rvince and in return I get good neat stuff back [19:12] I read a ton on marketing trends on banner placement [19:12] I put out 20 blogs daily [19:12] Chimera, good; continue! :-) [19:12] splogs [19:12] I study a lot of mainstream affiliate marketing also which helps [19:13] there's a great magazine called Revenue which has interesting tips and tricks [19:13] how can ppl make 20 blogs per DAY? only with RSS feeds? [19:13] LOL my neice is umm a major marketing analyst for microsoft [19:13] "Save your work" Rvince. Keep everything you write. Reuse it. [19:13] no i put out 20 splogs and update 12 real blogs [19:13] Repurpose it. [19:13] I do 1k posts for a project [19:13] * rvince chose to have only 5 blogs with long articles instead :-) [19:14] 1k word posts [19:14] i recycle my 12 long blog posts through my systems [19:14] I redo at least one sponsor hosted feed a day [19:14] I prefer to have 5 blogs with 5k visitors/day on each than to have 1000 blogs with 25 visitors/day on each, but that's just me :-) [19:14] oh and revenue magazine website for those who are interested - http://www.revenuetoday.com/ [19:14] so it can be done if you think about it [19:15] LOL Sleazy ask them.... [19:15] np :) [19:15] actually I bought blogs organizer a few days ago, will try to make a few splogs soon :-) [19:15] I've been reading them for years [19:15] LOL Sleazy this is my bandwidth [19:15] rvince, also look hard at gallery scraper. Great add on and really worth it [19:16] I have burned through five host's bandwidth this month [19:16] and am only half through [19:16] Sleazy, some of Revenue is spot on, some of it is wildly off base for adult [19:16] rvince i have 12 main blogs that are pure ego [19:16] but my splogs sell [19:17] OMG everyone should buy gallery scraper...wait, no one should, ignore that, NO MONEY with that product [19:17] yes no money in it! [19:17] none! [19:17] NO MONEY dont use it [19:17] lookitdamonkey [19:17] LOL [19:17] in fact donate your license ot me and I'll destroy it for you [19:17] yes but I will do it faster [19:17] There is NO money in blogs porn OR shemales ;) [19:18] LOL [19:18] none at all [19:18] Thats right CoolJay! Or Gallery Scraper! [19:18] You are all wasting your time being here :p [19:18] So you know, go do something else. Please. [19:18] Move on up the ladder to Mcdonalds :D [19:18] yes look away from the screen [19:18] keep typing lets scroll that off the page.... [19:18] go join a Monestary, and give me your FTP passwords [19:18] * Bizchick types frantically [19:19] Bizchick, will have a look at it, thanks [19:19] ;) My pleasure [19:19] biz and lucky are really tech savvy it took me a long time to figure out scripts :( [19:19] I suck with scrips :( [19:19] LOL [19:19] If I really want soemthing though I will take the time to read the stuff and do it [19:20] HEY! lol [19:20] I wanted gallery scraper and some other scripts [19:20] yes [19:20] scroll [19:20] do not look Sleazy [19:20] You are getting sleepy like tigermom.... you do not need gallery scraper.... [19:20] It is to be honest one of the best tools out there Sleazy [19:21] LOL Ima Newbie!! We don't have money [19:21] LOL [19:21] breakfast: Ramen noodles and milk. Lunch, ramen noodles. Dinner, ramen noodle casserole. [19:21] Gallery scapper just cleans your ass, nothing more :p [19:21] The menu of a newbie ;) [19:21] that is correct CoolJay [19:22] I have an orange on sundays [19:22] And do NOT check the box which says spider galleries for text. It does nothing,No money. [19:22] ewww Sleazy bad joke [19:22] A whole orange? YOU LUCKY!!! [19:22] ROTFL [19:22] Just clean it after every application and it will last for years and your ass will smell so fuckin fresh you will NOT believe [19:22] LMAO [19:22] no, me Lucky, her Chimera [19:22] If you buy scripts that makes webmastering easier for you, you will earn money from buying them pretty fast [19:22] LOL CoolJay [19:23] I agree Sleazy it is why I own my own content and purchased the scripts and have my own hosts :) [19:23] * Bizchick going for another cup of coffee [19:23] You told me you wouldnt sell those pictures of me, Chi :( [19:23] :))) [19:23] sowwy Lucky but ...you know business is business [19:23] Busted :p [19:23] Biz took them :) [19:24] I was dead sexy in those leopard-skin underoos [19:24] I liked the lucky charms one [19:24] Blue horseshoes, baby, and purple diamonds [19:25] Well they would not buy me :( *cries* but i figure I can sell lucky and those purple diamonds [19:25] Sleazybear, good advice which actually reminds me that I have a couple photo lenses to sale on ebay... I should be able to get $200 from the bunch... [19:26] I also have a part time job scrubbing belly buttons [19:26] You would be shocked what I find in there too [19:26] nice [19:26] LOL [19:27] So its more a piece of art then an auto [19:27] LOL [19:27] too funny [19:27] when your car runs out of gas you get a new one [19:28] LOL [19:28] squirting [19:28] * Bizchick returns with hot cup of coffee [19:28] Sleazybear, buy her a pair of gloves and a gasmask? [19:29] "If your truck bluebooks over $500, it aint really a truck" --one of my redneck blood brothers [19:30] Sleazybear, nevermind! Save on the gasmask and get a clothespin (much cheaper!) :-D [19:30] Does it have your fishin gear behind the bench, tho? [19:31] lol, good enough [19:32] is there a shotgun in the back window that is the acid test for texas ;) [19:33] * Guest16580 has quit IRC (QUIT: PJIRC forever!) [19:33] then it is not a real redneck truck :) [19:34] You get a pass if you have a NHRA or NASCAR sticker, or Calvin pissing on the logo of an opposing car company [19:35] I speak from experience [19:35] yes bumper stickers are a must I speak from my next door neighbor :) [19:35] WOOT [19:36] LMAO - Lucky called it [19:36] We actually had an officer drive to work in his pickup truck leaving the shotgun in the rack in the back of his pickup. We unfortunately worked at a prison :) [19:36] my people [19:36] LOL @ chi [19:36] * redglow has quit IRC (QUIT: PJIRC forever!) [19:37] It was fun Sleazy :) [19:37] gota go , lunch time here, see yas later folks , was good listening! [19:37] LOL Sleazy [19:37] Bye haui :) [19:37] Thanks Sleazy, and I like the stories [19:37] see ya all later at> http://www.netpond.com/ :) [19:37] Bye Haui [19:37] you know honestly, great show today! [19:37] OOO you did where did you work Sleazy? [19:37] LOL [19:37] bye folks and have a good day yall! ;) [19:38] LOL I swear he worked at mine [19:38] bye haui :) [19:38] * haui has quit IRC (QUIT: ) [19:38] can you type the url in irc? [19:39] http://wwww.awvns.com [19:39] yes there is low bandwidth [19:39] thanks [19:39] lol, love the beard SB [19:39] huh, cant get to it [19:40] I get server not found [19:40] doh, extra w [19:40] http://www.awvns.com [19:40] ala zztop [19:41] wow, alot younger then I thought [19:41] looking good there SB [19:41] i am 44 [19:41] Naww he sounds young [19:41] Nice to see a face with the voice [19:41] after all these years [19:42] Thanks for the link [19:42] LOL [19:44] LOL Sleazy it was great fun yanking your chain :) you are a good sport [19:45] * tigermom has quit IRC (QUIT: ) [19:45] Cheers SB. [19:45] Thanks again SB, great show :) [19:45] TTYL on netpond.com everybody! [19:45] Thanks for the show sb [19:45] thanks everyone for comming [19:45] bye rvince :) [19:45] thanks Sleazy [19:45] take care all [19:46] It was a good time sleazy :) [19:46] yep time to work now [19:46] Everyone I'll talk at ya later, i got feeds to build :) [19:46] argle bargle, work [19:46] ugh me too :) [19:46] still havent hit 20 a day [19:46]