
Session Start: Wed Oct 18 18:47:45 2006
Session Ident: #plrlive
[18:47] * Now talking in #plrlive
[18:47] * Topic is 'Welcome to the Netpond Show! Audio on http://69.61.74.194:8000/listen.pls'
[18:47] * Set by Logfile on Sun Oct 15 19:54:30
[18:47] -Logfile- Welcome to the PLRradio and AEBNradio Chat Room! 
[18:47] <PaulJohn> hi there, sorry that i'm late but i needed to done some things
[18:48] <PaulJohn> is somebody recording?
[18:48] <SleazyBear> nope
[18:48] <adulion> tigermom : but what came first- the chicken or the egg?
[18:48] <adulion> :P
[18:48] <erots> no, whoops. didn't know you are not here
[18:48] <SleazyBear> dont worry about it.. no worries
[18:49] <PaulJohn> ok recording from now
[18:49] <PaulJohn> sorry again
[18:49] <tigermom> when you start a site, you need to decide whether you want to go with branding or SEO for the domain names - best to have both
[18:49] <tigermom> I have quite a lag in audio lol, I feel like a moive where the image and sound aren't synced :P
[18:50] <Rigrunner> lol
[18:50] <adulion> same here 
[18:50] <Rigrunner> me too
[18:50] <tigermom> I have some good domain names for branding
[18:50] <tigermom> they are meaningless, but if I decide to do something with them and brand, they should be good
[18:50] <tigermom> 4 letters dot com's that are pronounceable
[18:50] <adulion> i stopped buying domains
[18:50] <tigermom> meaningless for SEO though
[18:51] <adulion> subdomains are cheaper :)
[18:51] <Ramp> put a site online asap
[18:51] <Ramp> :)
[18:51] <Lucky> Google also branded itself by being the 'clean' search engine as I recall...
[18:51] <Lucky> Search box and button - minimalist
[18:52] <adulion> i sold a domain i want back!!1
[18:53] <SleazyBear> http://netpond.com/showthread.php?t=96551
[18:53] <Lucky> My disjointed thoughts on wucky.com: rubber.wucky.com - latex and rubber fetish goods
[18:53] <erots> :D
[18:53] <erots> lucky.wucky.com
[18:54] <tigermom> subdomains are great for mass blogging
[18:54] <erots> wucky.com - "Search Engine that brings you the ads"
[18:54] <Lucky> heh
[18:54] <adulion> my tip for seo- keywords in urls
[18:55] <Ramp> lol
[18:55] <Ramp> ;]
[18:55] <SleazyBear> ok i have chosen the number for the spin and win game, remember you have to be called.. 
[18:55] <SleazyBear> so post away your numbers between 1 and 50
[18:55] <rvince> 36
[18:55] <Redhotca> 26
[18:56] <PaulJohn> 13
[18:56] <adulion> 42
[18:56] <Ramp> 30
[18:57] <PaulJohn> wtf is the prize or what? :)
[18:57] <erots> damn, I don't have skype
[18:57] <SleazyBear> jeep posting
[18:57] <Ramp> yeah, whats going on? :D
[18:57] <Boop> back
[18:57] <PaulJohn> ah i dont have skype either.. :
[18:57] <tigermom> cool, you can send me the number
[18:57] <erots> boop, post a number!
[18:57] <Boop> 22
[18:57] <Boop> lol
[18:57] <erots> :)
[18:58] <Ramp> tigermom what did you win last week?
[18:58] <erots> post more numbers
[18:58] <erots> more more
[18:58] <adulion> 17
[18:58] <Boop> 2
[18:58] <adulion> 5
[18:58] <adulion> 38
[18:58] <adulion> 12
[18:58] <Boop> 18
[18:58] <Boop> sorry have company at the same time
[18:58] <tigermom> I won 2000 points + a bag of goodies
[18:58] <Boop> 13
[18:59] <tigermom> oh, and a kiss from SB!!!
[18:59] <Ramp> 49
[18:59] <Boop> 48
[18:59] <Ramp> 48
[18:59] <Ramp> 34
[18:59] <Ramp> 56
[18:59] <Boop> lol
[18:59] <crabman> 37
[18:59] <Ramp> 23
[18:59] <SleazyBear> ramp wins
[18:59] <adulion> 19
[18:59] <Ramp> lol
[18:59] <Ramp> :D
[18:59] <Boop> 4
[18:59] <PaulJohn> :))
[18:59] <cofla> 22
[18:59] <PaulJohn> congrats
[18:59] <Boop> 29
[18:59] <Ramp> ???
[18:59] <cofla> :)
[18:59] <Ramp> lol?
[18:59] <erots> on my cellphone? damn. i'll try next time :)
[18:59] <Boop> who congrats
[18:59] <Boop> ohh i missed that
[18:59] <Boop> woohoo ramp!
[18:59] <erots> congrats Ramp :)
[19:00] <tigermom> congrats!
[19:00] <dejan2885> 28
[19:01] <PaulJohn> dejan keep posting :D
[19:02] <Boop> lol
[19:02] <Boop> where is ramp from? do we get a sexy accent this week?
[19:03] <erots> Lithuania :)
[19:03] <dejan2885> sorry i didn't folow this... why we are posting numbers
[19:03] <dejan2885> ?
[19:03] <Ramp> :D
[19:03] <adulion> get you back on boop... loved your giggle :)
[19:03] <Boop> lol
[19:04] <Boop> i was a total dink that day
[19:04] <Boop> i was so shy
[19:04] <Ramp> LOL
[19:04] <Ramp> so laggy
[19:04] <Boop> wohoo 1000 points
[19:04] <tigermom> we're playing bingo, dejan
[19:04] <Boop> lol
[19:04] <crabman> deal or no deal
[19:04] <tigermom> congrats on the 1000 points Ramp :)
[19:04] <Ramp> lol  thank you
[19:04] <Boop> 100o points is a domain name isn't it
[19:04] <Ramp> :)
[19:04] <adulion> congrats :)
[19:04] <rvince> congrats Ramp!
[19:04] <Boop> 1000 even
[19:04] <Paul7> cool :)
[19:05] <dejan2885> go bingo
[19:05] <dejan2885> :)
[19:05] <Ramp> lol cool
[19:05] <Boop> lol
[19:05] <cofla> congrats :)
[19:05] <tigermom> do we play again?
[19:05] <tigermom> well, not me, but others :P
[19:05] <Ramp> thank you :D
[19:05] <Ramp> first time lucky
[19:05] <Ramp> :D
[19:05] <tigermom> yeah! a Q & A!
[19:05] <Ramp> :)
[19:05] <tigermom> let's talk more about sales text :D
[19:05] <Ramp> wouldn't say that number
[19:05] <Ramp> ;]
[19:05] <Rigrunner> best way to get traffic to toplists?
[19:06] <Rigrunner> without making the surfer feel cheated
[19:06] <tigermom> sales text - sales text - sales text lol
[19:06] <tigermom> honestly, I see how different my sales text is now, following the show 2 weeks ago
[19:06] <adulion> what ratio shud i skim on niche tgps? every click after the third one? 4th? 5th?
[19:06] <erots> ah what what :)
[19:07] <Boop> i'm thinking of going all text with only a few pictures and the pictures will be tease pics, nothing hardcore. good idea or bad idea?
[19:07] <Boop> there is my question
[19:07] <erots> sleazy what do you think about this site http://www.voyeurvideovault.com/
[19:07] <Boop> thinking of a text fake tgp too
[19:07] <tigermom> strange, toplists pretty much died in mainstream
[19:08] <erots> tigermom: i have seen some really good ones... going for the top spots :)
[19:09] <erots> yeah that toplist feature sucks and i kind a surf toplists myself like that... without not leaving
[19:10] <Boop> brb for a fast sec
[19:10] <erots> s/not//
[19:11] <Rigrunner> how do you get your traffic, SleazyBear?
[19:12] <Altheon> I've put toplists into a traffic trading script and skimmed off of my tgp.
[19:12] <rvince> erots, not sure anybody else gets sed syntax ;-D
[19:12] <Boop> back
[19:12] <erots> rvince: habit :)
[19:14] <Altheon> I've got fake ones that are all skim. ;)
[19:14] <Redhotca> whats the code for adding a bookmark to site ? 
[19:15] <Ramp> SleazyBear is a wm of cash uncovered?
[19:15] <SleazyBear> http://hotscripts.com/search/12446656.html
[19:17] <SleazyBear> http://hotscripts.com/search/12446681.html
[19:17] <Ramp> seeandsee is there?
[19:17] <Redhotca> thank you sleazy
[19:19] <tigermom> 4how about email collection boxes? 
[19:19] <tigermom> there was a mission about this in betabrigade
[19:19] <Altheon> I've been looking for those double opt-in e-mail scripts but I can't find any free ones.
[19:20] <tigermom> try dada mail
[19:20] <tigermom> I hope it's still free, it's very good
[19:20] <tigermom> I have newsletters in non-adult
[19:20] <tigermom> I send them from my own servers, I don't use companies like topica, because they add ads and stuff
[19:20] <Rigrunner> do you have to send out warnings with porn-mailouts?
[19:20] <tigermom> besides, I want my list with me
[19:20] <erots> PHPlist is good too
[19:21] <tigermom> http://www.bukkake-on-her-face.com
[19:21] <tigermom> oops lol
[19:21] <tigermom> wrong paste
[19:21] <tigermom> http://mojo.skazat.com/
[19:21] <tigermom> that's a good mailing list software
[19:22] <Altheon> Yeah they can definately be a security risk.
[19:22] <tigermom> I use it for large lists, over 10k subscribers and not a hitch
[19:23] * Ramp afk
[19:23] <Ramp> sorry guys have to go :(
[19:24] <tigermom> dada should be good and it's free
[19:24] <tigermom> it's used by many people
[19:24] <Boop> have a great one ramp
[19:24] <tigermom> you don't have to purchase the pro version, I still use the free version
[19:24] <Boop> free is such a wonderful word
[19:24] <tigermom> yes, it's double opt-in
[19:24] <tigermom> it's opt-in/opt-out has everything
[19:25] <Boop> shit brb again
[19:26] <tigermom> the thing with a mailing list is to be careful with sponsors content and FHG's 
[19:26] <tigermom> you could get kicked out of a sponsorship program real quick if they say you spammed people
[19:26] <tigermom> so, as far as I can see, you have to send email that promote only your pages
[19:26] <erots> yup
[19:28] <Rigrunner> can you link to your own galleries with sponsor content?
[19:28] <tigermom> is this good traffic though?
[19:28] <tigermom> do those people convert?
[19:29] <erots> well, they are active
[19:29] <tigermom> what kind of promise do you give them to sign up? updates on the site? or actual porn?
[19:30] <erots> i have got many sign ups from my gmail groups.. which is basically same. didn't have lot of visitors either.. so they sign up
[19:30] <tigermom> what happened to your mailing list?
[19:30] <tigermom> gmail groups or yahoo groups is another interesting topic
[19:31] <SleazyBear> http://xxxvideoo.com/
[19:31] <tigermom> thomas talks about yahoo groups often but he talks about joining existing ones
[19:31] <tigermom> question is, why not start your own mailing group on yahoo or google or msn?
[19:32] <Rigrunner> that's really clever :D
[19:32] <erots> i still have them but i don't concentrate on them anymore much. i stopped because it got way too complicated.... way too many groups in different niches
[19:32] <erots> well, i did start my own mailing groups
[19:33] <tigermom> yeah, you need a large group to go well
[19:33] <tigermom> *do
[19:33] <tigermom> and I would prefer having them on my server, actually
[19:34] <tigermom> rather than have yahoo or whoever go nuts and take away your list
[19:34] <adulion> we still going.. i ran and got food there
[19:34] <tigermom> got anything yummy?
[19:34] <tigermom> I just had spaghetti here :D
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[19:35] <tigermom> you need a privacy statement and a disclaimer too
[19:35] <tigermom> just to cover your tush
[19:36] <Boop> this show is being recorded right? i have spent most of the show running around and looks like i missed a bunch of great stuff
[19:36] <erots> if i'm going to make mailing list then i'm probably going to make it send out automatic messages when I make a new post
[19:36] <tigermom> you should also have a dedicated server if you get a big list
[19:36] <erots> probably going to make it for every blog i have.. i think there was a plugin
[19:36] <erots> it's like RSS... but for old people who don't trust RSS yet
[19:36] <tigermom> you can just add it to the template
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[19:36] <tigermom> hey, I ain't old!!
[19:36] <tigermom> :P
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[19:36] <erots> lmao
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[19:37] <erots> well, for "certain" old people
[19:38] <tigermom> what site is he looking at?
[19:38] <Rigrunner> is there a way to offer something like a desktop buddy, so everytime i update my blogs anyone who has the desktop buddy would see along with the link
[19:39] <erots> www.voyeurvideovault.com ....one of the 5 voyeur blogs I made recently
[19:40] <erots> yeah, that sucks, haha
[19:40] <erots> i really hate that template actually.. but i discovered that when i finished the site
[19:41] <Paul7> thanks for the linktrade tigermom
[19:41] <erots> yup
[19:41] <tigermom> you're welcome :) I'll go add our linsk then
[19:41] <Paul7> cool
[19:42] <tigermom> shouldn't he improve the sales text? lol
[19:42] <tigermom> not sure if blogs are the same, but the click here text there isn't in dick lingo, IMO
[19:43] <erots> i really should add videos there though, lol
[19:43] <tigermom>  one thing there, erots, you need to change your category name from uncategorized to something else
[19:44] <erots> ah yes. i usually change it, but i guess i forgot
[19:44] <tigermom> your text is good though, looks like you understand the voyeur niche
[19:44] <tigermom> I would be worried if I were your neighbor lol
[19:44] <Rigrunner> LOL
[19:44] <cofla> lol tigermom
[19:45] <erots> lmao
[19:45] <erots> well i wrote like 120 voyeur posts
[19:45] <erots> in very short time period
[19:45] <tigermom> excuses, excuses :D
[19:45] <erots> lol
[19:46] <erots> i'm with 0:1200 ratio right now.. will see how it goes :)
[19:47] <tigermom> well, with blogs you have to update
[19:47] <erots> i wonder who else has voyeur blogs though
[19:47] <tigermom> you can't just forget about it 
[19:47] <erots> i will.. i need to finish my last 12 blogs
[19:47] <tigermom> it's true of regular domains
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[19:49] <erots> yeah, i belive in that too... i mean, it's people after all.. who are  visiting my sites
[19:49] <tigermom> do you use only one sponsor there?
[19:49] <tigermom> only npc?
[19:49] <erots> right now, yes
[19:50] <tigermom> maybe try variety
[19:50] <tigermom> so that maybe a different tour every now and then, for your regulars
[19:50] <erots> i couldn't decide between titanbucks / npc
[19:50] <tigermom> do both then :)
[19:50] <Paul7> titanbucks is cool :)
[19:50] <adulion> planet preggo rocks
[19:50] <Paul7> yep
[19:50] <tigermom> thanks for the show, sleazy :)
[19:50] <erots> will do... don't want to do very much of variety though.. hate under minimum earnings :)
[19:50] <adulion> dogging uncovered rocks too
[19:50] <Lucky> Take care SB
[19:50] <cofla> cool show SB, thanks 
[19:50] <SleazyBear> thanks everyone for comming
[19:50] <Boop> thanks for the show sleazy! what i did get to hear was great lol
[19:51] <crabman> good show thanks SB
[19:51] <Rigrunner> thanks SleazyBear :)
[19:51] <Paul7> thanks for the show :)
[19:51] <erots> good show thanks sleazy :)
[19:51] <Altheon> Thanks for the info Sleazy.  I'll give you a call later.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on the magazine I sent.
[19:51] <Redhotca> excellent show sb, very cool tips
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[19:51] <SleazyBear> i did go over that.. 
[19:51] <SleazyBear> nice concept
[19:52] <erots> haha
[19:52] <tigermom> ok, bye everyone...
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[19:52] <erots> bye
[19:52] <Paul7> byez all
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[19:52] <Boop> bye everyone have a great day
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[19:52] <crabman> bye
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[19:53] <PaulJohn> byw
[19:54] <PaulJohn> bye
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Session Close: Wed Oct 18 19:54:04 2006
